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[msssaf]

did you make your own test or just believe whatever other people post? i asking because after looking at the links you posted i have a very different result on my own test, my recommendation to you is go and do you home work instead of believing whatever other post

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blacklist, whispers and the pistol of that r6 operator are the only three pistol that will alert people in 5 meters.
And there's a bug that can let you change your weapon's alert distance: put the suppressor away in gunsmith page, then equip the suppressor in gameplay by pressing button while aiming. If you find that your suppressor is on but it doesn't show "suppressed" after your gun's name on the leftbottom of your screen then you are success. And your weapon's alert distance will be replaced by your sidearms' alert distance.

It's very funny that you talk me like that, just shows how ignorant you are.

[GAP-Computer]

blacklist, whispers and the pistol of that r6 operator are the only three pistol that will alert people in 5 meters.
And there's a bug that can let you change your weapon's alert distance: put the suppressor away in gunsmith page, then equip the suppressor in gameplay by pressing button while aiming. If you find that your suppressor is on but it doesn't show "suppressed" after your gun's name on the leftbottom of your screen then you are success. And your weapon's alert distance will be replaced by your sidearms' alert distance.

It's very funny that you talk me like that, just shows how ignorant you are.

seems like you missed something, here we go again, go and do you home work instead of believing whatever other post

[msssaf]

seems like you missed something, here we go again, go and do you home work instead of believing whatever other post

Since I have already explained why you got your rare result and you refused to accept not only my words, but also other players' test results, then I have no other word to you. Keep believing that you are the chosen one who find the "truth" with your little videos, funny kid.

[GAP-Computer]

"It's very funny that you talk me like that, just shows how ignorant you are." blacklist isn't a gun you can customize so you can't use that cheat here (that show how ignorant you are), second, the sniper rifle on the video was .50 cal (HTI) suppressed fired at 30 m from the soldier (in advanced mode), in the link you provide clearly state that the sniper rifle will be safe to shoot at a 50 m from the target without alert them, i prove to you ( on the little video) that what was posted there (without a video) was no true since i shot a suppressed sniper (the worst according with one of the posters) from 30 m (maybe i could be even closer to the soldier, didn't try) without alert him, when they said the safe distance was 50.

PS: The video was made based on players' test results, distance and weapon

[Ubi-Lucipus]

I'd like to remind you all to behave and continue your discussions in a constructive manner, failure to do so will result in the thread being closed and potential infractions.

[Bone_Frog]

The key factors in damage should be cartridge used and muzzle velocity, but who knows what algorithm they used. The weapon stats and lack of consistency is maddening. There are weapons that are identical ecxept for paint that perform differently FFS. What’s worse is that often the weapons in paid for packs with custom paint jobs perform worse than their free counterparts obtained in the game. The recent M110 being a good example, or the SRSA1 Black Widow being another. If this isn’t a smack in the face, what is?

That would simplify it for the game, but IRL a lot more goes into terminal ballistics than catridge and muzzle velocity.

The M110 isn't identicle to the SR-25 or the G-28. I actually expected it to underperform the SR-25 and the G-28(aka M110-A2). I haven't checked to see how the stats matched up, but considering its IRL version under performed and was replaced by the G-28, it was what I expected.

[msssaf]

"It's very funny that you talk me like that, just shows how ignorant you are." blacklist isn't a gun you can customize so you can't use that cheat here (that show how ignorant you are), second, the sniper rifle on the video was .50 cal (HTI) suppressed fired at 30 m from the soldier (in advanced mode), in the link you provide clearly state that the sniper rifle will be safe to shoot at a 50 m from the target without alert them, i prove to you ( on the little video) that what was posted there (without a video) was no true since i shot a suppressed sniper (the worst according with one of the posters) from 30 m (maybe i could be even closer to the soldier, didn't try) without alert him, when they said the safe distance was 50.

PS: The video was made based on players' test results, distance and weapon

I doubt your ability of understanding: blacklist and other two pistols I have mentioned are originaly has less alert distance than other customizable pistols, which is 5m while customizable pistols' alert distance is 15m as I said. And you used the cheat I mentioned on your sniper rifle so that you can fire your Tac50 within 50m without being detected. Don't you see there's no "suppressed" displayed after tac50's name on your screen?

Clearly you never did a full test, but hold your rare result as "truth", and refused to accept the common results not only from me but also from the majority. Now you even want to prove yourself by explainning my word by your misunderstanding, again it's very funny.

[Bone_Frog]

I doubt your ability of understanding: blacklist and other two pistols I have mentioned are originaly has less alert distance than other customizable pistols, which is 5m as I said. And you used the cheat I mentioned on your sniper rifle so that you can fire your Tac50 within 50m without being detected. Don't you see there's no "suppressed" displayed after tac50's name on your screen?

Why do you assume that he used a cheat? It isn't shown anywhere in the video and he stated that he didn't. It seems odd that you would be so insistent on it.

[msssaf]

Why do you assume that he used a cheat? It isn't shown anywhere in the video and he stated that he didn't. It seems odd that you would be so insistent on it.

Because his tac50 isn't showing suppressed after the gun's name but the suppresser is actually on the gun. That shows he used the cheat to replace tac50's alert distance by his sidearm's alert distance(maybe a pistol). Now his tac50 will only alert people in 5m if he was using blacklist as his sidearm. If he didn't use the cheat, then his tac50 will display "tac50 - suppressed" instead of "tac50" as the name on his screen. Am I clear now?

The best way to make people believe a lie is to make the lie part truth. None of his video is fake, but that doen't mean his video lead to a common result. If you can read my former post word by word then you will see I have already explained how this cheat works, but unfortunatly you didn't.

[Bone_Frog]

Because his tac50 isn't showing suppressed after the gun's name but the suppresser is actually on the gun. That shows he used the cheat to replace tac50's alert distance by his sidearm's alert distance(maybe a pistol). Now his tac50 will only alert people in 5m if he was using blacklist as his sidearm. If he didn't use the cheat, then his tac50 will display "tac50 - suppressed" instead of "tac50" as the name on his screen. Am I clear now?

The best way to make people believe a lie is to make the lie part truth. None of his video is fake, but that doen't mean his video lead to a common result. If you can read my former post word by word then you will see I have already explained how this cheat works, but unfortunatly you didn't.

There is no need for the rudeness. I did read your former post, and how you explained it there made no sense, which is why I asked for clarification. I also wasn't aware that this exploit was in the game nor how it worked. You may want to go easy on accusing everyone of lying. It is rather off putting, and doesn't really lend itself to a productive conversation.