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    Originally Posted by NEOFRONDEUR Go to original post
    I don't need to be objective.
    Well then, we cannot have a conversation, because it will become about "I", which may come with elements not everyone will agree with.

    Originally Posted by NEOFRONDEUR Go to original post
    And the last thing I want to do is ***** about something I don't care for..
    Of which is what it became.
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    Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
    Well then, we cannot have a conversation, because it will become about "I", which may come with elements not everyone will agree with.



    Of which is what it became.
    Have fun *****ing just to complain, just can't enjoy life always have to see an angle to complain. I'll enjoy the game I waited for since before the DIvision 1's launch.
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    DZ's incentive is PvP and the "MMO" effect that LZ doesn't get. If people don't want to PvP then why force them? Sounds like a desire to get more people to come in just to grief them. If you want more incentive to get more targets in the DZ then the other half that solos or small groups who want that MMO experience should get a dark zone where multiple people, solo or grouped, can come together and do content, be rewarded, and not have to worry about PvP with the same simple straight forward running event to event with strangers available to only help not hinder.
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    Originally Posted by NEOFRONDEUR Go to original post
    Have fun *****ing just to complain, just can't enjoy life always have to see an angle to complain. I'll enjoy the game I waited for since before the DIvision 1's launch.
    You are the only one who complained lol.

    I took the objective approach. And if being objective is complaining to you, big yikes.
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    Originally Posted by Akasha-Rose Go to original post
    DZ's incentive is PvP and the "MMO" effect that LZ doesn't get. If people don't want to PvP then why force them? Sounds like a desire to get more people to come in just to grief them. If you want more incentive to get more targets in the DZ then the other half that solos or small groups who want that MMO experience should get a dark zone where multiple people, solo or grouped, can come together and do content, be rewarded, and not have to worry about PvP with the same simple straight forward running event to event with strangers available to only help not hinder.
    If I enjoyed the DZ and it's mechanics and pvp I would certainly go in there and enjoy it with the same loot drops as PVE, not sure why one has to be incentivized to be played. Fun factor is fun factor and you should be able to enjoy what you enjoy without feeling restricted by loot drops this is still non real life fantasy land right?
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    Originally Posted by Akasha-Rose Go to original post
    DZ's incentive is PvP and the "MMO" effect that LZ doesn't get. If people don't want to PvP then why force them? Sounds like a desire to get more people to come in just to grief them. If you want more incentive to get more targets in the DZ then the other half that solos or small groups who want that MMO experience should get a dark zone where multiple people, solo or grouped, can come together and do content, be rewarded, and not have to worry about PvP with the same simple straight forward running event to event with strangers available to only help not hinder.
    Am I the only one not mentioning PVP?

    Not every likes PVP, but everyone needs loot. At least, I'd hope so. That's the actual point: the loot being the incentive, not PVP.
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    Wont people just still be doing the story stuff? so not currently going into the DZ. Is there a reason to go into the DZ now? as you don't really need good gear yet to do story and LZ stuff while levelling up.
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    Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
    Am I the only one not mentioning PVP?

    Not every likes PVP, but everyone needs loot. At least, I'd hope so. That's the actual point: the loot being the incentive, not PVP.
    Gameplay should be the incentive with the same loot chances in both areas. Again why force people into doing what they don't want to do to obtain loot?
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    Originally Posted by scarpant96 Go to original post
    Wont people just still be doing the story stuff? so not currently going into the DZ. Is there a reason to go into the DZ now? as you don't really need good gear yet to do story and LZ stuff while levelling up.
    Ideally, with the buff the LZ, yeah people will still be on the outside of the DZ. I definitely will, Heroic bounties are great.

    But right now, there isn't any incentive to go into the DZ, except personal ones.

    The chase for that 1% exotic is that only drops in the DZ is a huge incentive. No where in that chase mentions you will always have to PVP, because even now, that's just not true. Unless, you walk into the occupied DZ, of which you cannot blame the game telling you what you are in for.

    Gear Sets would be the same way.

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    And again to whom it may concern, if you are okay with the raid having exclusive gear, but the DZ cannot, that is some hypocrisy, and where the objectivity is lost.
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    Originally Posted by Merphee Go to original post
    It's not really about PVP, that's not what the incentive is about, it's about populating the DZ, or still giving players a reason to go in there in the midst of a rich LZ. Remember, straight to inventory is still a thing.
    Well, it is about PvP. It's a place for players to fight over for loot. I understand it's about populating the DZ.
    No one is going to step in the dark zone if there is "exclusive loot" while everyone is running the same loadout and one tapping everyone. How is that fun?

    You know I am a proponent for exclusive loot, but there are serious some flaws regarding PvP right now. It needs to be addressed before adding exclusive loot pools imo.

    Is solo queuing working for you?
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