Mojocoyo’s Boss - Without a trace? | Forums

[Virtual-Chris]

We had a brief thread yesterday on how to do Nidia’s Cash without leaving a trace.

Today the last solo challenge is to do Mojocoyo’s Boss without leaving a trace. Of course, most people will just Sync shot the whole place, but I’m curious to see if it can be done without any trace you were there.

If done this way, presumably, it would remove suspicions that Gabriella gives up Antonio (it would give her plausible deniability), so it’s a worthy challenge.

Anyone else going to try it this way? Any thoughts on whether it’s possible?

@Frag, you think you can parachute into the house roof top undetected?

[Currere]

Today the last solo challenge is to do Mojocoyo’s Boss without leaving a trace. Of course, most people will just Sync shot the whole place...

Maybe I'm just pouring gasoline on the fire here, but you can completely ignore the modifiers on this challenge. You reset this challenge by going to Mojocoyo Alpha, which is the same place you need to go to get "Mission completed". This means the parameters are reset just as you finish, making it completely impossible to fail this challenge as long as you complete this mission.

To your point, if Gabriella has complete deniability, how would you explain/justify the next mission? You know, the one where you have to extract Gabby because she's screwed.

[CarolinaFrog]

Maybe I'm just pouring gasoline on the fire here, but you can completely ignore the modifiers on this challenge. You reset this challenge by going to Mojocoyo Alpha, which is the same place you need to go to get "Mission completed". This means the parameters are reset just as you finish, making it completely impossible to fail this challenge as long as you complete this mission.

To your point, if Gabriella has complete deniability, how would you explain/justify the next mission? You know, the one where you have to extract Gabby because she's screwed.

because its a bunch of coked up narcos.... theres always some lunatic with crazy conspiracy theories and a gun(or 10)

[Frag_Maniac]

@Frag, you think you can parachute into the house roof top undetected?

I would only try that at night, and even then, you have the sniper on the rooftop near the house. I've never tried that mission in the dark, and I assume you'd get no benefit of guards sleeping because it's a Buchon's house they're guarding, not a base with barracks. That said, there's usually one guard at the edge of the driveway just outside the house that often sleeps sitting in a chair, even in daylight. If there's one or two others that do that at night, it might be doable. Still though, keeping Gabby from panicking and alerting them would be a problem.

If by no trace you mean no kills, realistically you'd need some kind of feature to knock out guards without them knowing it when they wake up, like a drug that makes them sleepy or something. The game just doesn't allow for that kind of thing. Otherwise you'd need to somehow pull off a miracle using lures or managing to sneak to Gabriela undetected and remain undetected after questioning her. My guess is that as soon as you grab her anywhere inside the house, all the guards in and around the house would immediately be on alert.

The guards in the driveway are very hearing sensitive, which is why I wait until the guy on the balcony at the front of the house goes to the far railing before killing him. If you could give us some kind of idea what is acceptable as far as no trace I could try it, but I'm not really keen on using those diversion lures. They are not only very unrealistic, as pretty much any guard would be alerted by something spewing green smoke suddenly appearing, but they're also often ineffective at luring except for a very short distance, which is often no help.

Not sure if you can toss diversion lures whilst parachuting, but it might take something like an approach from the direction of that sniper's position, tossing a lure on his roof at the far edge opposite the target house, then landing on the slope of the house nearest the sniper, and tossing another lure to the front end of the driveway to facilitate dropping off the roof on the patio atop the driveway stairs. Then it's good luck getting out undetected, let alone interrogating Gabby without problems. Any way you do it you'd need perfect timing and some luck.

[Virtual-Chris]

I would only try that at night, and even then, you have the sniper on the rooftop near the house. I've never tried that mission in the dark, and I assume you'd get no benefit of guards sleeping because it's a Buchon's house they're guarding, not a base with barracks. That said, there's usually one guard at the edge of the driveway just outside the house that often sleeps sitting in a chair, even in daylight. If there's one or two others that do that at night, it might be doable. Still though, keeping Gabby from panicking and alerting them would be a problem.

If by no trace you mean no kills, realistically you'd need some kind of feature to knock out guards without them knowing it when they wake up, like a drug that makes them sleepy or something. The game just doesn't allow for that kind of thing. Otherwise you'd need to somehow pull off a miracle using lures or managing to sneak to Gabriela undetected and remain undetected after questioning her. My guess is that as soon as you grab her anywhere inside the house, all the guards in and around the house would immediately be on alert.

The guards in the driveway are very hearing sensitive, which is why I wait until the guy on the balcony at the front of the house goes to the far railing before killing him. If you could give us some kind of idea what is acceptable as far as no trace I could try it, but I'm not really keen on using those diversion lures. They are not only very unrealistic, as pretty much any guard would be alerted by something spewing green smoke suddenly appearing, but they're also often ineffective at luring except for a very short distance, which is often no help.

Not sure if you can toss diversion lures whilst parachuting, but it might take something like an approach from the direction of that sniper's position, tossing a lure on his roof at the far edge opposite the target house, then landing on the slope of the house nearest the sniper, and tossing another lure to the front end of the driveway to facilitate dropping off the roof on the patio atop the driveway stairs. Then it's good luck getting out undetected, let alone interrogating Gabby without problems. Any way you do it you'd need perfect timing and some luck.

Let’s say all you need to do is get inside the house to Gabby undetected. At that point, we could assume you get her to create a diversion or distract one or more of the guards necessary to escape. What do you think?

Maybe you could parachute to the roof at night and slip into the house undetected?

[Virtual-Chris]

Maybe I'm just pouring gasoline on the fire here, but you can completely ignore the modifiers on this challenge. You reset this challenge by going to Mojocoyo Alpha, which is the same place you need to go to get "Mission completed". This means the parameters are reset just as you finish, making it completely impossible to fail this challenge as long as you complete this mission.

To your point, if Gabriella has complete deniability, how would you explain/justify the next mission? You know, the one where you have to extract Gabby because she's screwed.

Yeah, I totally get what you’re saying... I’m taking a complete role-playing angle here... how to provide her with plausible deniability so as not to put her in danger and effectively negate the need to rescue her. And make it look like Antonio disappeared on his own.

If I was writing/cropping these missions the rescue mission would have been contingent on how you handle this mission. Assuming there’s a way to do it without leaving a trace.

[Frag_Maniac]

Let’s say all you need to do is get inside the house to Gabby undetected. At that point, we could assume you get her to create a diversion or distract one or more of the guards necessary to escape. What do you think?

Maybe you could parachute to the roof at night and slip into the house undetected?

If all you mean is undetected (no alert raised), regardless whether anyone is killed, it's definitely doable. I did it in broad daylight on my Extreme No HUD/Upgrades run. That said, Antonio himself was of course alerted when I captured him, but none others were. Keep in mind undetected also means enemies at times can see you, but if you kill them before they alert anyone, it still counts as undetected. Undetected and no trace aren't really the same thing though.

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I'll give it a try at night to see if it can be done truly unseen though, because I get the feeling that's what you mean. Been wanting to break out the chute again after spending 3 months on that last play through without it anyway.

[Virtual-Chris]

If all you mean is undetected (no alert raised), regardless whether anyone is killed, it's definitely doable. I did it in broad daylight on my Extreme No HUD/Upgrades run. That said, Antonio himself was of course alerted when I captured him, but none others were. Keep in mind undetected also means enemies at times can see you, but if you kill them before they alert anyone, it still counts as undetected. Undetected and no trace aren't really the same thing though.

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I mean get into the house without a trace. No detection, no violence. I think lures or distractions would be fine in this situation as it’s a town and odd things or noises are not out of the question... could be kids, etc

[gunbladelad]

You csn simply do the entire mission however you like getting spotted, killing people, etc - and when you take Antonio to the extraction point your challenge will reset - and complete when you extract him.

I did that myself earlier after a random Unidad patrol spotted me when I had the AI team mates shooting up Antonio's car from the helicopter.

[Virtual-Chris]

Someone on Reddit says it can be done without a trace...

https://www.reddit.com/r/GhostRecon/...y_27_11_march/