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    dinosaurlicker's Avatar Banned
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    Jiang Jung needs hard nerfs

    This guy is literally unpunishable, all you can do is go for parries and hope he doesn’t cancel into something else. Sifu stance 90% of the time is just a roll that uses less stam and has less recovery. Trying to gb this j results in a t-rex gb. Way too much health for a little chinese guy too. And his dmg is the highest in the game lol. Please DON’T nerf him, he HASN’T been broken since release
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    only his soothing mist feat is OP. Which they're supposedly fixing. And semi true. if he keeps you at range it's hard to punish him. But if you're in his face sifu canceling doesn't work because you can GB him in start up. and his side heavy dash attack is slow. Meaning it has a high GB vulnerability window that lets you GB it on reaction. So he can't just use that to reaction dodge your offensive pressure. He's certainly powerful in a team fight due to feats plus his sheer AoE. But that doesn't make him OP imho.
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    Originally Posted by dinosaurlicker Go to original post
    Way too much health for a little chinese guy too.
    Uh, no.
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    Originally Posted by RenegadeRasta Go to original post
    Uh, no.
    Look at him next to other heavies
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    Sorry mate but just check last winrate matrix he is on top in all game modes. I don't have such a hard time vs other strong chars such as monk, BP, conq etc but JJ is certainly OP in current state. Just my opinion
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    His lights do way too much damage. And his zone, too. If the damage of lights and zone gets decreased, I'm fine.
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    Originally Posted by Darkmight_cz Go to original post
    Sorry mate but just check last winrate matrix he is on top in all game modes. I don't have such a hard time vs other strong chars such as monk, BP, conq etc but JJ is certainly OP in current state. Just my opinion
    Man, winrate matrix is just statistics, they collecting information from all people or from ptalinum and above! It is stupid, most of people even on platinum and even on diamond are noobs, noobies which don't know how to play, of course JJ will be strong if you missing lights and don't know how to deal with his moves.
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    Originally Posted by Knight_Raime Go to original post
    only his soothing mist feat is OP. Which they're supposedly fixing. And semi true. if he keeps you at range it's hard to punish him. But if you're in his face sifu canceling doesn't work because you can GB him in start up. and his side heavy dash attack is slow. Meaning it has a high GB vulnerability window that lets you GB it on reaction. So he can't just use that to reaction dodge your offensive pressure. He's certainly powerful in a team fight due to feats plus his sheer AoE. But that doesn't make him OP imho.
    Keep in mind that his dmg are above all others for an unknown reason on his Light chain, Zone and side dodge attack. That's not normal.

    His side dodge is slow, but no others side dodge attacks got so many mix up options and he has HA on.

    Plus his insane aoe and HA or UB on all heavies in any direction. JJ is just a pain for the game in 4v4 console (which represent most of the games played).

    Originally Posted by AiP.Lekret Go to original post
    Man, winrate matrix is just statistics, they collecting information from all people or from ptalinum and above! It is stupid, most of people even on platinum and even on diamond are noobs, noobies which don't know how to play, of course JJ will be strong if you missing lights and don't know how to deal with his moves.
    A diamond player dont even know how to play ? You're wrong. Because if it would be true then average player would be Master and decent player GM?
    Bronze players are newbies who dont know how to play. Silver and gold are average. Plat and Diamond are decent players. Then Master is high level and GM top level.

    And Btw, what is the purpose to say it is just statistics? It's like saying "it is just maths, it doesn't proove anything in anyway by A + B no".

    Of course these stats are not perfecly made but they still show some true things. JJ is a good example.
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    I think his lights do too much damage for how fast they are, and soothing mist is easily the best feat in the game. Other than that I can't complain about him too much

    I guess his movement speed is a little ridiculous considering he's a big guy who's a heavy class with a large health pool. At first glance I'd imagine him being only slightly faster than Highlander
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    Originally Posted by AiP.Lekret Go to original post
    Man, winrate matrix is just statistics, they collecting information from all people or from ptalinum and above! It is stupid, most of people even on platinum and even on diamond are noobs, noobies which don't know how to play, of course JJ will be strong if you missing lights and don't know how to deal with his moves.
    I highly doubt Diamond players are noobs considering they are the top 10% (excluding top 1% and top 100). Wouldn't it be really concerning if the top 10% BEST players on a platform didn't know how to play the game?
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