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  1. #11
    Originally Posted by BepycVerus Go to original post
    I’m not even going to argue with you, it’s just pointless. Everything was said about this character in the previous posts and topics etc.
    I’m not going to repeat every other guy.
    You’re just one of those people who wants to hurry up and nerf every hero you are not playing with.
    How about try and practice against him? Or go ahead and learn him, that way you’ll be able to understand his move set.
    I have no problem against him what so ever.
    Ok first of all you don't know me dude so stop trying to act like you do. Second I didn't give two ****s about the wu-lin faction and you know why? Cause they were somewhat way more balanced than BP. Third of all I did practice against him and I know his move set. Once again I'm gonna repeat myself because you don't seem to actually read what I write I know how to play against him but when it comes to 4v4 you just can't cause you get ganked by two or more BP non-stop.
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  2. #12
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    Originally Posted by BTLive7 Go to original post
    I'm not mad because I don't know how to play against him... I'm pissed because playing against two or more is a pain in the ***... is he strong in 1v1 yes but I can still easily counter him, but in 4v4 he's a god. See any other hero in this game can gank me all day and I wouldn't care cause I can actually do something about it, but when it comes to BP the issue lies with the damn shield bash and the stance that sends you flying over his damn head cause two or more bashing you form any direction at the same time can ground you therefore leading to the easiest spam to death you've ever experienced. Oh and you're probably gonna say that's what revenge is for right... well BP as I previously said can just render revenge utterly useless... So riddle me this batman how tf do you counter them when all they're throwing at you are shield bashes and guaranteed lights cause of the bash???
    But playing against 2 or more of any Hero is a pain in the arse. Not only BP. You are talking about how frustrating it is to get shield bashed by 4 BP´s the whole time. Imagine 4 shamans, only one needs to put bleed on you and guess what will follow after that, 4 shamans ready to jump at your throat to bite it. 4 JJ´s, 4 unblockables coming your way, 3 feinting cause you will try to parry at least one of them. 2 need to connect and you are dead (ok maybe 3). Going against 4 of the same hero will always feel like that Hero is broken or op. Go against 4 wardens shoulder bashing you into oblivion. Even 4 Lawbros impaling the living crap out of you would feel like LB is broken now. You will just never see 4 LB´s but that´s another story.

    And no, I wasn´t gonna say that that is what revenge is for. I am aware of the fact that BP can cancel your revenge. That feat is kinda stupid.

    A hero locked playlist is what I would like to see. 2 or more of the same hero is just boring and unfun.
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  3. #13
    Originally Posted by rbtfortune Go to original post
    I play mainly Breach and some Dominion and literally every match has two or sometimes three BP, Level 0 BP's running around together beating everyone down is not uncommon in 4v4. If the community is so "aware" of what a no skilled overpowered piece of junk this hero is, then why is every 4v4 match flooded with them ?
    Because they are new and players tend to want to play&practice their new hero?



    Originally Posted by rbtfortune Go to original post
    Even when you have them on your team they ruin the match because rather than stick to the objectives in Breach for example, they do stupid crap like trying to 1v1 the guardian the whole match instead of helping their team mates.
    So tell why is it bad to kill the guardian? Why don't you for a change help them to kill the guardian (it's only there for mostly up to 2 times in the second stage)? Don't you know that he provides you a ton of renown but also all 3 types of buffs? As attackers you can figuratively turn things around after that. You have the mobility and the damage to quickly clear the ram lane of enemy soldiers AND you can spread out to get the ramparts points more quickly as well (on top of getting the flag and what not). Plus, if you'd help you would waste much less time being seperated.

    And what does picking a BP has any to do with that behavior ingame in general? This point is just nonsense.

    And guess what every season from now on will be exactly like that, because there will be just one hero release and if the hero is somewhat appealing ppl will pick and play him/her.
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  4. #14
    Originally Posted by rbtfortune Go to original post
    You may have destroyed a full team with Aramusha but to be honest, this guys complaints are valid. I play mainly Breach and some Dominion and literally every match has two or sometimes three BP, Level 0 BP's running around together beating everyone down is not uncommon in 4v4. If the community is so "aware" of what a no skilled overpowered piece of junk this hero is, then why is every 4v4 match flooded with them ? Even when you have them on your team they ruin the match because rather than stick to the objectives in Breach for example, they do stupid crap like trying to 1v1 the guardian the whole match instead of helping their team mates. Since the introduction of BP, 4v4 matches have become quite unpleasant.
    1/ we see a lot of BP because he is new. Simple as hell. Dont you see s8 with almost wulins everywhere ? That's normal.
    2/BP isnt more no skill than many char. People say that because they complain about his guaranteed SB in oos and revenge situation most of time and it has been dix already.

    Originally Posted by BTLive7 Go to original post
    I'm sorry but no, Bp can turtle better and punish you way harder than conq ever could. Is the spawn for attackers in breach bad? Yes, but that doesn't make my point non relevant. There's a reason other players are "crying" about it don't you think? Get at least two of these guys ganking you and you'll have a bad time too let alone four damn shields flying at your face in all directions. Bp can ground an enemy and spam him to death so easily imagine two or more.
    Well, i don't want to look arrogant but if you seriously think BP is a better turtle than conq then we have nothing to discuss about.

    A reason ? No, people just like to cry. This is the human nature.

    I mean i dont get why peole does it in this way.
    They would make valid post and explain why they think this or that is too strong but no they just say wrong things and cry.

    With the last patch, now the only problem with BP the team should look at is the speed and the recovery of his SB. That's all.
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  5. #15
    Originally Posted by Klingentaenz3r Go to original post
    Because they are new and players tend to want to play&practice their new hero?




    So tell why is it bad to kill the guardian? Why don't you for a change help them to kill the guardian (it's only there for mostly up to 2 times in the second stage)? Don't you know that he provides you a ton of renown but also all 3 types of buffs? As attackers you can figuratively turn things around after that. You have the mobility and the damage to quickly clear the ram lane of enemy soldiers AND you can spread out to get the ramparts points more quickly as well (on top of getting the flag and what not). Plus, if you'd help you would waste much less time being seperated.

    And what does picking a BP has any to do with that behavior ingame in general? This point is just nonsense.

    And guess what every season from now on will be exactly like that, because there will be just one hero release and if the hero is somewhat appealing ppl will pick and play him/her.
    Having played Breach since inception, I think I know what the Guardian does by now. Picking BP has everything to do with behavior in this type of match because people are going against the guardian alone to test the character's capability while the other three team mates are trying to secure other objectives without the fourth player's help. One of the rules in Breach is to never go against the Guardian alone yet because people want to see how strong BP is they do this with disregard for winning the match.
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  6. #16
    Ofc, there is so many BP because of a novelty. And only. Unblockable\bash spamming is not an issue at all. And also amazing amount of complicated mix-ups on this character makes him so desirable.
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  7. #17
    Originally Posted by Devils-_-legacy Go to original post
    the damage after bash could be toned down a bit that probably the only issue that hasn't already been addressed from the latest patch
    His bash has poor tracking and is only in one direction. I think his damage is fine as it is after landing a bash (just glad the guaranteed bash after counterstrike and OOS/revenge bugs were fixed tbh)
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  8. #18
    his bash tracking is standard for a bash? the only thing i can think with better tracking are hard cc moves like highlander grab.
    I still think his damage needs a 5 reduction or his recovery from a missed bash increased
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  9. #19
    The hero is far from broken, he just needs a couple of tweeks here and there. BP is definitely not "a f***ing joke"
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  10. #20
    Originally Posted by Redkey. Go to original post
    Ofc, there is so many BP because of a novelty. And only. Unblockable\bash spamming is not an issue at all. And also amazing amount of complicated mix-ups on this character makes him so desirable.
    Which of his mixups are the "amazing amount of complicated mix-ups"?
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