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[Goat_of_Vermund]

The bulwark is balanced. Ift works just like a parry, your guard is gone for 500ms if you miss the counter. You can throw a heavy for example if you think he is waiting for a light. I only play duel, faced lots of bps and use him too, and even on midlevel, it's a very situational ability. It might be a different story in 4v4, but timing it just right is not always easy.
His shieldbash recovery should be long enough to be vulnerable to dodge attacks.

[BunnyBuggs]

he is def not god tier.
and yes the light bash light should get some work on it because its to much in 1 combo.
and no he def dont need to be god tier wich he isnt.
ppl that abuse the bash look him like god tier.
i would rate him as a good A maybe A+ tier.
its like siegfried say once u parry the lights a few times then he gets out of the god tier modus.
and ive been losing to very good LB players that know how to deal with him.
like i said i dont abuse the bash spam so yes he is fine in most cases.

[TimeToCrusade]

JJ deserves a nerf, a hard one too, I agree but again: pick lb into 4 vortigers, tell me what happens then

Conq bash is punishable on whiff, and guarantees less dmg, so nope (conq is also a must nerf tho)

JJ feats ..well his shields are useless vs vortiger and his inciendiary too because of block healing

BP dmg not above other char....okay, 20dmg lights, LB got 12 for slower, never guaranteed lights, JJ's dmg is ridiculous, I agree, but it's because of people saying that nothing is op that we get 9/10 heroes with a ridiculous, cancer move/or stats

[BunnyBuggs]

yep ppl think BS is OP but to get some decent flips with it need practice.
and im not talking about the ppl that use the same patern over and over again.
after a few min u can have alot of flips on them , but the ppl that play feint games.... not that easy to get flips on them.

[BunnyBuggs]

JJ his damages needs a nerf yes , BP need a nerf on the bash combo yes , the feats are very strong yes.
and LB def needs buffed in his kit.
ofc if u come across 4 BP u get bashed so hard that every hero will die.
ppl only bash with bp in 4v4 , i totaly agree
but like i said i play mostly 1v1 and believe me if u dont spam the bash then its not that easy like ppl think to win against decent players.

[TimeToCrusade]

Yes it does need practice but the problem is that some player will reach a point where they just cant lose. I once faced a conq that never used the bash, but was unkillable due to perfect use of full block, now imagine this with BS, you just cannot leave a move with so much potential, not to mention the invulnerability, nothing justifies this tbh, every single hero in the game can be attacked while performing a move but BP should be immune to all forms of damage ? Ridiculous

[ChampionRuby50g]

JJ deserves a nerf, a hard one too, I agree but again: pick lb into 4 vortigers, tell me what happens then

Picking arguably the current worse hero in the game against any 4 heroes and you’ll have a bad time. It’s not a BP specific issue. Going against 4 of the same hero on the enemy team is always going to be a sh1t time, regardless of the hero you yourself are playing. That’s a poor argument for BP being OP.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

4 Lawbringers have a very decent chance against 4 Black priors. It's an other story in 1v1, but Lawbringer is very weak there, along with nobushi, centurion and peacekeeper. Conqueror is still stronger, and unlike BP, he can leave the stance more than two ways, for example, by performing a zone, and unlike bp, he does not require as precise timing, you hit the shield, the counter hits even a full second later. The broken part is the bash.

[Brutal_DaDo]

It’s the damn crying over every single time they add a new hero, he light bash light bug is going to be fixed since they stated it’s a bug, ya’ll just don’t want to practice when a new hero is out, i’ve played BP till rep 8 and if you play him outside of the light bash light you’ll see that he uses a ton of stamina, a missed bulwark counter it’s a huge stamina loss, if you don’t play mindlessly you’ll alawys catch him with a gb if he tries going into bulwark, his undogeable heavy it’s an easy parry, ublockable heave from bulwark stance it’s useless and you can gb him out of that too. The only thing he needs it’s a damage nerf on his lights and his feats other than that he seems the only one hero they didn’t release super broken! And after they nerf him you’ll just go back on cry about conq, jj again! Jeez man

[BunnyBuggs]

It’s the damn crying over every single time they add a new hero, he light bash light bug is going to be fixed since they stated it’s a bug, ya’ll just don’t want to practice when a new hero is out, i’ve played BP till rep 8 and if you play him outside of the light bash light you’ll see that he uses a ton of stamina, a missed bulwark counter it’s a huge stamina loss, if you don’t play mindlessly you’ll alawys catch him with a gb if he tries going into bulwark, his undogeable heavy it’s an easy parry, ublockable heave from bulwark stance it’s useless and you can gb him out of that too. The only thing he needs it’s a damage nerf on his lights and his feats other than that he seems the only one hero they didn’t release super broken! And after they nerf him you’ll just go back on cry about conq, jj again! Jeez man

ty thats what im trying to say all the time here +1