Whats going on with warlord? | Forums

[Xan.Kriegor.]

I've been a warlord main since day 1. He's had his ups and downs, and im really enjoying the fact that he finally has a little more versatility with his moveset. The thing is, hes been nothing but nerfed since day 1, i just simply don't understand. Every season and every update he becomes more and more unplayable. (not that this game is entirely playable at this point ESPECIALLY at a competitive level.) he's gone from the most technical fighter in the game to just another face on the roster. now that theyve slowed down his full block, taken away guaranteed heavy from parry, taken away headbutt from full block, taken away his guaranteed heavy after full block, nerfed his headbutt, pretty much there hasnt been a single thing done to improve him, only to cripple him especially against newcomers like vortiger who has bullwark and can move while in full block, can do 40 dmg right out the gate, his bashes are nearly unreactable, (can you tell i hate vort?) but i digress. i honestly dont want to complain i just want a detailed explanation as to why hes only getting nerfed? I'd really like to see something unblock able added to his attacks rather than his usual headbutt light combo, that doesnt even guarantee a light. i cant really speak for any other characters on the roster as ive only used wl and cent since the first dlc, but it seems like the new characters every dlc as well as nerfs/buffs are released on a "throw it out there and fix it later" type deal as and thats just killing your fanbase. I've gotten to the point where i cant play this game anymore, BUT IT HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL! just really really poor execution. so tell me, whats going on with warlord? or better yet, what the hell is going on with this games balance in general?

[ArchDukeInstinct]

Why do people always have to pretend that Warlord is some poor underdog that just can't get a break or something. The dude has been S tier since the game's launch, man.

And they always act like the nerfs he received were unjustified. He used to have insane dodge recoveries and an instant deploying full block that you could counter guard break from. Of course nonsense like that has to go and even when they were removing that they were still giving him damage buffs in the same patch.

[Tyrjo]

Why do people always have to pretend that Warlord is some poor underdog that just can't get a break or something. The dude has been S tier since the game's launch, man.

And they always act like the nerfs he received were unjustified. He used to have insane dodge recoveries and an instant deploying full block that you could counter guard break from. Of course nonsense like that has to go and even when they were removing that they were still giving him damage buffs in the same patch.

He's only been S-tier because of the Crashing Charge. Now that it has been nerfed into being unusable he doesn't have that much going for him. Everything else he has in his kit is base line at best, even after the recent changes.

He has no real mix ups and the defensive part of his kit is severely lacking. The Full Block is terrible. The Parry Counter is terrible.

[ArchDukeInstinct]

He's only been S-tier because of the Crashing Charge. Now that it has been nerfed into being unusable he doesn't have that much going for him. Everything else he has in his kit is base line at best, even after the recent changes.

Not for year 1 which is when he actually received most significant nerfs. He was leagues above most characters in terms of kit.

[Qoissant]

I use warlord as a comparison to Vortiger a lot. Because Vortiger has all his general moves but way more OP and they added him the same time they nerfed warlord to dust. So any argument about Warlord being OP or unbalanced is inane at this point

[ArchDukeInstinct]

I use warlord as a comparison to Vortiger a lot. Because Vortiger has all his general moves but way more OP and they added him the same time they nerfed warlord to dust. So any argument about Warlord being OP or unbalanced is inane at this point

He doesn't have Warlord's free win on GB > throw move.

[Xan.Kriegor.]

Why do people always have to pretend that Warlord is some poor underdog that just can't get a break or something. The dude has been S tier since the game's launch, man.

And they always act like the nerfs he received were unjustified. He used to have insane dodge recoveries and an instant deploying full block that you could counter guard break from. Of course nonsense like that has to go and even when they were removing that they were still giving him damage buffs in the same patch.

you must not play him often, and no he hasnt, he was only s tier until his headbutt was nerfed in year 1. what dodge recoveries? can you give details cuz i been playing him every day for 3 years and dont know what youre talking about. oh and his full block isnt instant, its pretty much a full second to activate, making it useless unless you predict the next move, even then they can feint to gb. compared to all the other characters with fb, warlords doesnt really hold up competitively. also you CANNOT cgb from full block friend. you are completely wrong there.

[Jastorm187]

Why do people always have to pretend that Warlord is some poor underdog that just can't get a break or something. The dude has been S tier since the game's launch, man.

And they always act like the nerfs he received were unjustified. He used to have insane dodge recoveries and an instant deploying full block that you could counter guard break from. Of course nonsense like that has to go and even when they were removing that they were still giving him damage buffs in the same patch.

You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. You are thinking of release Warlord when he had a great kit compared to other released characters at the time. However he is now the worst heavy in the game. He is found at the bottom of the "state of balance" data for all factors for the past few seasons that devs release, and the only reason he was S tier at the highest competitive game play was crashing charge abuse. (Which is now nerfed).

Shug, JJ, conq, BP... All A tier or better. Shug is a mix up god now, JJ has insane AOE and the best damage to attack speed ratio, Conq has the most unpunishable bash that can come from 6 different methods, and BP gets the strongest full block in the game that beats just about everything and 20 dmg guaranteed lights after an unpunishable bash.

Warlord doesnt even have an unblockable attack yet, and his undodgeable comes from either a 50 stam zone or a full block... Because we all know you dodge to beat a full block....oh and a bash that if missed is punished by a free guard break, but dont worry we get a guaranteed 12 dmg off our headbutt if we manage to hit...that chains to... Nothing... Oh and dont forget that we have a counter in our kit that is best when not used... And a character with a shield that uses it to block only... And it blocks just as good as a dagger when a polearm is swung at it....

The only thing he can do well is ledge. Which most maps its easy to avoid or doesnt even exist.

[Tyrjo]

Not for year 1 which is when he actually received most significant nerfs. He was leagues above most characters in terms of kit.

Year one? Ancient times. I'm talking about recently and after the new patch.

He doesn't have Warlord's free win on GB > throw move.

Duel maps aren't designed that way any longer. So, no free wins.

[EvoX.]

Warlord is lackluster because they want your money by you buying Prior - you know, the one with the broken, unpunishable bash and a kit that's better than WL's in every possible way. Would you spend money on him if Warlord was as good? Maybe, but the chance is lessened, and they can't have that.