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[Qoissant]

https://imgur.com/a/QOLpUB4

So we see here that blue team got absolutely shredded. We were getting spawn killed to the max and there was nothing we could do about it. This isn't a matter of "git god" (I'm actually pretty good at this game)

There should never be a situation where you lose dominion 200 - 1200 and are getting murdered in spawn with scores like this. It is not balanced matchmaking!

Ever since Black Prior came out the game has been so much less enjoyable, besides the new brokenly OP Shugoki and Vortiger, I am getting matched with kids that are double my rep and play so sweaty its horrible. Meanwhile my teammates are literally under rep 20 (I am 50) and they don't even play the game nearly at the level of me or the enemy team.

What is happening with matchmaking right now? It took me 8 Dominion matches to get the Attacker challenge done today because I have been losing like 80% of my matches, which means I get less XP and steel, how is that fair...

[Illyrian_King]

You are right about the bad matchmaking right now ... if I got it right this change was needed to re-determinate you win/loss ratio for a better matchmaking system they are planning (if I didn't get something wrong during the Warriors Den Stream, since their french accent makes it hard sometimes).

But don't say, that Shugoki is strong or even OP. He is still a complete weak sausage, once you get the right dodge/parry timings out. If that is you problem, then you need definitely more practice.

[Vendelkin]

Taking out pvp based k/da averages is about the worst decision ever. People will get carried to later get slaughtered with this method.

[RagingtheReturn]

I liked the idea of them at least trying to fix the matching but I would love to just see a revert maybe as far as matchmaking goes. Im only rep 22 total but I got thrown into a dominion match that was way above my skill. on my team there was a rep 25, a rep 17, and a rep 30 then me a rep 22. our opponents were rep 50, rep 75, rep 122, and a rep 84. Before someone says the typical, "Git Good" and "Suck it Up" response. I know that rep isnt an indicator of skill but it shows the experience and time someone has put in. We got absolutely slaughtered and the round ended in about 5 minutes. 3 of us ended up leaving the match right at the breaking time. Im not condoning our actions of quitting the match but at least somewhat understand the situation. They said that within a week the matchmaking would be more even but up till this point I haven't seen this "even" matchmaking happen.

[Qoissant]

Me calling Shugoki OP is a direct result of the warlord nerf. Shugokis is just objectively better now along with Warlord 2.0 (Vortiger). The things I find OP are... His out of stamina pressure BS because of his Headbutt, and the magnetism on shugokis grab needs to be re evaluated as he grabs sideswipers no matter when you start the attack. It is far to magnetic and refits his stamina to full and can guarantee your demise in a gank. Also his light attacks come out faster than Tiandi's palm strike, when I was doing a vanguard challenge with him I had shugokis consistently throw a light when I palm strike and interrupted me 90% of the time (Maybe that was an astronomical coincidence)

[Qoissant]

Taking out pvp based k/da averages is about the worst decision ever. People will get carried to later get slaughtered with this method.

YES! It is not even like the people I'm fighting are better than me or not significantly anyways, but its like my teammates are never around to help me in banks or cap obj. I think its because kids who got carried or can only play obj are getting into my matches so its making stuff extremely unbalanced. The K/DA was better from what I can see because you could have a match where everyone was more or less on the same fighting level

[rottmeister]

For me the matchmaking is all over the place. Had it happen yesterday that my team had a total of 300+ reps while the enemy team had a total of 100+ reps (with one guy having 90 reps). Kind of felt bad for the new guys (would've felt bad for the rep 90 guy but he "spammed lights n Kia so...), my teammates probably did too because we lost, LOL. So I ended up trying out different ways to counter the new Shugoki and seeing what works.

[Illyrian_King]

Me calling Shugoki OP is a direct result of the warlord nerf. Shugokis is just objectively better now along with Warlord 2.0 (Vortiger). The things I find OP are... His out of stamina pressure BS because of his Headbutt, and the magnetism on shugokis grab needs to be re evaluated as he grabs sideswipers no matter when you start the attack. It is far to magnetic and refits his stamina to full and can guarantee your demise in a gank. Also his light attacks come out faster than Tiandi's palm strike, when I was doing a vanguard challenge with him I had shugokis consistently throw a light when I palm strike and interrupted me 90% of the time (Maybe that was an astronomical coincidence)

About that palm strike I can tell you that it is 500ms. Completely the same as big boiii's lights. The hyperarmour makes the difference.

The best advise I can give you, is to simply look closely at the animation during the unblockable heavy charge-up. If he loweres his head, then he goes for the hug and there is still plenty of time to dodge --> free guardbreak.
If not then just parry the heavy --> free light

Just wait/watch and don't let yourself get forced to an early reaction, because then Goki can react on you. I would advise you to try it out in the Training Mode.

[UbiInsulin]

Sorry to hear you were in a lopsided match! The changes we made recently are being closely observed. In the notes for the last related maintenance, we said "Nonetheless, we will not keep the change if it results in bad matchmaking experiences or if the average matchmaking time is increased.."

[RagingtheReturn]

Sorry to hear you were in a lopsided match! The changes we made recently are being closely observed. In the notes for the last related maintenance, we said "Nonetheless, we will not keep the change if it results in bad matchmaking experiences or if the average matchmaking time is increased.."

Do you know if there have been more reports of mismatched games or is a small section of the players that are experiencing it?