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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ finally someone who has actually played goki and is making sense, hes not op within a week everyone will get used to him and he'll go back to getting destroyed. his whole mix up can just be ignored by turtleing and rolling away and he cant do anything about it. not to mention that his health and damage have been reduced and hes lost his passive which was what made him unique before, like if your gonna take that away you need to give him other tools. just changing his animations and speeding him up a bit is going to do **** all.
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As man who played Shugo a lot i can say that his rework actually a nerf and i can tell you why.Before rework shugo was very weak but he had 40 dmg havies and hyperarmor.It had allowed him to counter bashes and did a GREAT punishment after light parry.Shugo was very weak against assassin's cause hyperarmor's debuff , but actually good against bushspammers like warlord,conq and lawbringer.After rework he had less heavies damage,no hyperarmor ,weak demon's embrace,no garanteed headbutt and ONE good mixup Heavy-->Demon's Embrace.In casual pub games new shugo very good cause its very easy to catch people for demon's embrace.But if you fight against turtle you LITERALLY CAN DO NOTHING ,turtle will just parry you charged heavy and dodge demon embrace that make you turtelling too.But like i sayed before shugo heavies now only 30 and its not a great punishment for light parry.Also i dont understand how new hyperarmor works,cause every bush interrupt shugo's attack what makes its pointless against bush-meta-heroes.
After rework shugo became a second centurion he is average against noobs and useless against good players.He was trash before rework,but still had tools against assassins and bushspammers,now he had almost nothing.
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You are so ****ing right and all i see is people playing him be like "the buff was alright but the demon's embrace is not punishing enough...."like wtf it easy to pull off and impossible to avoid plus it heals ,WTF!??! AND AFTER THAT YOU ARE LEFT ON THE GROUND?? REALLY NOW ?PEOPLE ARE DEFENDING THAT?plz nerf sugoki and i will not talk about the hyper armour ...it feels like he has too much stamina or too much damage i dunno but what i know is no matter what, if i happen upon a sugoki in a duel who can do the most basic of feints and spams demons embrace he will win no matter what...
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Don't get me wrong ... this is what happens when newbies are allowed to give their opinion about such an matter ;bOriginally Posted by AbominableSeksu Go to original post
Shugoki's embrace is one of the easiest melees to dodge in the whole game. You can see it like from a mile away, if he hits you with the charged heavy (just parry) or if he loweres his head and goes for a hug in like a second. Dodge that and get a free guardbreak on him. What is there unbeatable???
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Not even good in 1vs1 ^^Originally Posted by basscounter80 Go to original postShugoki is not OP. He is just good
