If you thought Gladiator's zone is op. | Forums

[dacinui]

Wait till you see vortiger's TENEBRIS .

Already getting tired of it.

[Knight_Raime]

Every hero is capable of punishing black prior's bash. Not everyone can punish gladiator's zone. Glad's zone is still better overall.

[C4rmine52]

Wait till you see vortiger's TENEBRIS .

Already getting tired of it.

You people must have slow reaction time. You know how easy it is to dodge his zone ?

[Star.Princess]

Gladiator's zone isn't OP, it is not very hard to dodge it and also every character able to punish it, it is just 50/50, if Gladiator feint it you can guaranlty gb him, if he not, you can parry.

[EvoX.]

Pretty sure he means the bash from neutral, not his zone. That's where he says ''Tenebris'', plus it's 500ms compared to 600 (Gladiator's) and 700 (BP's zone).

And yeah, it's better than Glad's zone. Unpunishable, extremely low stamina cost, 20 damage. No room for comparison.

[Knight_Raime]

Pretty sure he means the bash from neutral, not his zone. That's where he says ''Tenebris'', plus it's 500ms compared to 600 (Gladiator's) and 700 (BP's zone).

And yeah, it's better than Glad's zone. Unpunishable, extremely low stamina cost, 20 damage. No room for comparison.

Black prior's forward dodge bash is punishable on reaction by most dodge attacks even if it's buffered. Dodge into GB is also possible if you dodge on his dodge. But that's considered a read.
Glad's zone is not punishable by everyone and even a few of the heros who can punish it can't do it consistently. So no. It's not better than glad's zone.

[Vakris_One]

Pretty sure he means the bash from neutral, not his zone. That's where he says ''Tenebris'', plus it's 500ms compared to 600 (Gladiator's) and 700 (BP's zone).

And yeah, it's better than Glad's zone. Unpunishable, extremely low stamina cost, 20 damage. No room for comparison.

Gonna have to disagree there. Glad's zone cannot be punished by most dodge attacks whereas Black Prior's zone can be punished by every dodge attack.

[EvoX.]

Black prior's forward dodge bash is punishable on reaction by most dodge attacks even if it's buffered.

No, it isn't, you can stop spouting this BS. Even in perfect conditions with zero latency, the bots block every dodge attack that isn't initiated by an extremely early dodge, an impossible reaction. Good luck doing that more than once per match.

Gladiator's zone has the same damage, takes half the stamina, and can be punished by any character that can activate a dodge attack 200ms or sooner into a dodge. Also, it's slower, sitting at 600ms compared to 500. Prior's bash is faster, takes practically zero stamina, cannot be punished by GB without a hard read as it has the extremely low recovery of 600ms, and cannot be punished by dodge attacks without a very, very early dodge.

So yes, it is better.

Gonna have to disagree there. Glad's zone cannot be punished by most dodge attacks whereas Black Prior's zone can be punished by every dodge attack.

Bash, not zone. His bash most certainly cannot be punished by every dodge attack.

[Knight_Raime]

No, it isn't, you can stop spouting this BS. Even in perfect conditions with zero latency, the bots block every dodge attack that isn't initiated by an extremely early dodge, an impossible reaction. Good luck doing that more than once per match.

Gladiator's zone has the same damage, takes half the stamina, and can be punished by any character that can activate a dodge attack 200ms or sooner into a dodge. Also, it's slower, sitting at 600ms compared to 500. Prior's bash is faster, takes practically zero stamina, cannot be punished by GB without a hard read as it has the extremely low recovery of 600ms, and cannot be punished by dodge attacks without a very, very early dodge.

So yes, it is better.



Bash, not zone. His bash most certainly cannot be punished by every dodge attack.

Just because you're incapable of doing something doesn't mean it's not possible. I went and tested it myself after having a discussion with someone else in a different thread. The fact that you think glad's zone is punishable by every hero just goes to show you don't know what you're talking about. If you want to tell me that it's practically impossible to dodge into GB to punish his bash on console i can concede to that as it's a read to do so by dodging on their dodge.

But every dodge attack can punish his bash by reacting to orange. heros that have a dodge attack at the earliest of 300ms into their dodge are even capable of punishing it. It's just tighter timing. But heros who can dodge attack 100ms into their dodge? Absolutely can with no issues.

[OhHowSheGoingEh]

Every hero is capable of punishing black prior's bash. Not everyone can punish gladiator's zone. Glad's zone is still better overall.

First off he said vortiger's zone cant be punished not his neutral bash.
Second of all vortiger's zone is the exact same as as glads just slightly slower and you dont have to feint the second part.