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  1. #1

    Warlord's buff was not nearly half what it should have been

    Warlord's full guard still doesn't guarantee a heavy while Conqueror gets 33 damage on every block and Black prior gets 30 damage while being able to counter everything.
    Just make the heavy follow up from full guard unblockable and we're done. Nobody dodges when Warlord goes into full guard. He has nothing else when he enters it so they either wait for you to get out and apply their pressure or parry the heavy. Otherwise make it capable of coming out from every direction.

    He's headbutt does only 12 damage, cannot be followed up with anything on miss and is still vulnerable to Guard Break if dodged! Black Prior does 20 damage on a single bash and from what I've seen you cannot Guard Break him on a whiff, just like half the cast with a bash, namely Warden, Conqueror, Tiandi, Jianj Jun, Kensei, Lawbringer, etc.

    He still has no unblockable. If I have to break up turtles using my glorified chip damage headbutt which cannot be followed up by anything more than a petty 12 damage stab then don't let the enemy gain revenge twice before I'm able to kill them. Why didn't you considered such obvious things when buffing him?

    Did you think that by simply adding the undodgeable property to the zone and adding two chains you are going to sprung Warlord into being popular or strong? No! So let me do your work for you and tell you what he needs, because you obviously don't know how to buff him.

    A proper Full Guard punish. The heavy should just be guaranteed like every other full guard hero. If you want to keep the heavy as it is then make the light punish unblockable, make it deal 18 damage and make it so he doesn't leave Full guard at all while doing it. Give him a reason to use full guard. If the only benefit I get from blocking with it is a meassely 12 damage revenge feeding headbutt then I'd rather parry the hit and do a zone! Inbefore you nerf him so that he cannot do a 25 damage heavy after a heavy parry while Jian Jun does 28 and Shinobi does 29, balanced!

    An unblockable attack. There are four tiers of heroes.
    Heroes without a bash or an unblockable.
    Heroes with only a bash.
    Heroes with an unblockable.
    Heroes with both.

    Warlord doesn't have the soft feints to be capable of remaining without an unblockable. Beside headbutt chip damage he cannot put pressure on the enemy. What am I to do? Feint the heavies until the enemy gets bored and decides to leave? If they don't have to react they won't and I'll have to rely on opening them up with the headbutt which is just a revenge feeding machine in 4v4.

    Make his headbutt stab act as a chain starter or make it so it is impossible to be guard broken after a whiffed headbutt. Hell, just let us throw the stab as a 400 ms monodirectional attack on a whiffed headbutt, just don't make us just sit there. The game isn't as slow as it was when warlord was created. There are a lot of characters with bashes and dodge attacks that can punish it heavily. A guard break for only possibly 12 damage is terrible. Aslo, buff the damage. 12 damage is less chip damage than certain attacks I'm blocked against enemies that don't even have break through!

    Give him a reason to use his shield bash parry follow up. Right now the only reason to use it is to drain stamina only with the bash then do a headbutt to make the enemy go out of stamina then do the crushing charge shenanigans again! It's so simple to fix it:
    Shield bash heavy punish. Does 20 damage, not guaranteed if the enemy has the guard on he left. Does 40 stamina damage as normal. Can execute.
    Shield bash light punish. Does 15 damage, always guaranteed. Does 40 stamina damage as per usual. Has full guard active while doing the stab.


    I know that by now you will look at him again in 3 years because to hell with unpopular heroes am I right? The very reason you gave him 2 more chains was a pity act trying to get more people into him.

    Give him superior block on his heavies as well to make him a superior block character. Give him chained superior blocks. Black Prior can literally punish every follow up of every chain with his bulwark stance, why shouldn't Warlord have something good too?
    Simple as that light and heavy superior block starters. Superior block finishers as well. Give him some personality, there are so many things you could give him yet you chose to simply fill up what his kit was missing.

    You have your beloved date, you know nobody picks him, you know he has a bad time against mostly everything. Well I'll stand up to Warlord. You did him wrong, just as you did with PK, fix him properly, I know you hate him because he is unpopular but treating him like that is, in my opinion is evil from pure hate towards the character. I cannot see why you wouldn't fix such glaring mistakes? Oh, right, we cannot outshine Black Prior. Well, time to wait three more years then.
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    He is way too slow to be even considered a harasser. The headbutt was the only way to open up enemies and now is super easy to dodge and barely has range compared to the other shield bashes and kicks. His full block stance guarantees nothing and can't even be feinted.
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