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Hello guys ,
I'm rep 16 Shoguki and i felt devastated when i red the patch for the most waited rework
Demon Embrace is now trash
Headbutts are now trash
Feats and passives are now trash
the hero himself is worse than ever with max hp nerfed
all of these heart breaking nerfs are the cost to make him slightly more quicker and variant plus the ability to feint ?
are you serious ?
i'm totally shocked and in disbelieve
shattered and broken while watching Stefan preaches with a smile
what have you done to my precious efforts that i've worked and paid for my main
I PREFER TO BECOME A TURTLE AND GETS PARRIED WHENEVER I ATTACK RATHER THAN BEING A 500 POUNDS OF PURE BREATHING GARBAGE WHO CAN'T FIGHT NOR ENTERTAIN !!!
to tell the truth , I should not be disappointed since i'm wasting my time for a disappointment named Ubisoft .
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How did you come to the conclusion that Shugo is worse than he is now?
- He actually has a mixup game with a variety of feints
- He can actually go on the offensive
- He doesn't take increased damage from a BS hyper armour mechanic
- He doesn't take damage on a whiffed hug
- He gets full stamina back from a successful hug
- His headbutt has more utility in a gank and allows him to chain into his heavy finisher
- He can land Demon's Embrace way more often
Did you honestly expect they would leave his passive hyper armour and Demon's Embrace one-shotting at critical while giving him all these buffs? Sounds like you're just dissapointed that you have to learn how to play a new more aggressive Shugoki.
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In the gameplay he looked a lot better. Just relax, have faith and try him out when the rework comes by. People have said Warden's rework was trash when they showed it off and look at him now, he's one of the better duelists because of his bash. It's hard to put Shugo's rework into a tier list by having seen only 3 or so matches.
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I couldn't be happier about his patch notes!
I mean i guess he lost a bit of his personality when they made him faster and more mix-uppy like basically everyone else but that was a compromise that had to be made.
I was already having fun when he was trash, now i will take my revenge on all those cheesy tryhards who made me do all the work in duels and laugh like a maniac as i do 😈
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I would take this advice. I was really upset about all the things they changed with the Valk when they reveled her reworks. They had nerfed the crap out of her in ways of connecting combos, but in the end she came out to be more balanced for you and your opponents, which resulted in an overall more enjoyable experience.Originally Posted by rottmeister Go to original post
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Sure you defend Ubisoft by ignoring the following :Originally Posted by Vakris_One Go to original post
- No longer Embraces commanders
- No longer Embraces Revengeful enemy heroes
- No longer cast Demon Embrace as a solo move , you have to feint or throw in order to make the weakest version of Demon Embrace
- No longer kills when in critical health
- No longer drains the target's stamina
- Demon Embrace damage and healing nerfed by 40%
- Demon Embrace can now be interrupted by friends or enemies
I truly don't want the minor buffs for the cost of the huge nerfs .
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the old warden is better and you can't change my mind .Originally Posted by rottmeister Go to original post
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The old warden was terribly weak. The new warden is an S tier top duelist.
I am only rep 4 with shugoki, but do you realize these changes were implemented because he doesn't kill himself while missing a demon's embrace, and because demon's embrace won't take a year to land? Nobody landed them from neutral, never. They landed them on wallsplats, which won't come if the enemy pays at least a little attention. The new one will land quite often.
So, the major nerf is, you can't abuse it in 4v4 as much (in theory of course, it never really landed even in 4v4 against competent players). And the minor buff is, you can now use it without with real chance of landing it. And faking it out from a heavy is much better than the neutral version was, it forces a reaction, the current neutral one forces you to laugh, call over your grandma and tell them which buttons she should press to kill the shugoki.
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It was stupid that he could grab an objective/ commander. It allowed too much.Originally Posted by MrB3NX Go to original post
So you’re upset that it doesn’t grab revenge opponents? Man im definitely gonna miss activating revenge just to be grabbed and deleted.
I more or less don’t really care about it being a solo move or not.
So I can wear you down and when you’re finally on deaths door you get to instantly kill me ? Yea no. Regardless of goki standing kit wise it wasn’t needed and horrible.
The stamina doesn’t really matter. At all.
Nerfed because it’s faster and no longer damages himself, also gives stamina back.
The interruption from enemies and teammates should have been a thing from the beginning. It would be dumb to take 3 or 6 heavies from being caught by one move. Granted I feel this way about raider charge but that’s a different story.
Overall embrace was changed for the better. If the new goki has this stuff still he’d be too powerful and nowhere near as fun.
