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[Cadeau123]

This post is not saying that lawbringer is completely garbage

Alright, With that out of the way. I would like to say something I believe alot of people have said. Lawbringer at the moment, is quite garbage if you wanna be Offensive. Right now the only viable tactic you have is to Turtle. His Shove is really slow and quite easy to counter. All of his attacks except for maybe his top light are really slow and therefore are a breeze to parry. He doesnt even do that much damage for his slow attacks. You would think that if you had really slow heavies, they would do a lot of damage right? Nope! At least not for Lawbringer. His most powerful attack, His unblockable. Which i might add is also his slowest (I believe). Does 45 damage. Which is actually a good amount. But if you count in that the only way to guarentee this hit is to parry a light, which is quite hard to if you're fighting someone with really fast lights as Orochi or any other hero with really fast lights. But if you dont wanna parry lights, you could also just do a Light, Heavy, Heavy. Oh. But what was that? You have to do 1 heavy before you do your unblockable? So you basically have to do a slow attack, to then do an even slower Heavy attack? Not to mention, you can actually just dodge this Unblockable if you dont wanna risk parrying it.

The only really good thing Lawbringer has is his Shove on Block. Which if you're lucky, can turn really turn out good for you. If you're lucky enough to GB the person that you shoved. You can get in a heavy, maybe more if they keep trying to dodge away from the Shove. But still, this has some downsides since you can maybe get in 3 SHove + Heavies til you're out stamina. Not to mention, There are some non risk ways to get out of it as well. You could Side Attack which would counter a light attack or GB from the Lawbringer. You could do nothing incase the LB tried to GB, You could dodge if the LB tried to hit ya with a light. It's often just a 50/50 of what the LB will do.

The only way to be win as Lawbringer is to play Defensively. Which then includes the Block on Shove. Alot of people have told me that Lawbringer is great at being defensive. Which i agree on! But you're mostly defensive with blocking and not attacking unless you're good at parrying lights. Which i believe most people arent. So i think that we should Buff or Rework Lawbringer. Most likely Rework since i dont think making his attacks faster or stronger would change much, since if we would change him in any way. I would rather have it so he lost his shove on block,and got some other abilities instead. And i think just removing shove on block would be extremely bad for Lawbringer. Since that's the only good thing he has except for his Light parry attack.

So in my opinion. We should Rework Lawbringer, maybe not completely. But Give him some new abilities and remove some of his old ones.

I'll now list some things that I believe could be done to buff/rework Lawbringer. Do Note that i'm not saying ALL of these things should happen, just some small things i think would be good for Lawbringer. Again, I dont want all of these things to happen to Lawbringer. I'm simply just listing some ideas that could be used alongside others.

1. Make it so he could soft feint out of his heavies
2. Remove Shove-on-Block
3. Faster and/or Stronger heavies
4. A Side-Attack that does Damage (Not the Side Shove)
5. Either make the shove faster or make it so maybe the Lawbringer chould charge the shove as Warden, Basically make it more like Conq's Shieldbash or make it more like Warden's shoulderbash.
6. Replace/Change his Circle attack. His attack that hit's everyone is only good against minions since it's to slow to hit any real player.
7.More Health (Seriously, He's covered in Armor and doesnt have any more health than other heroes)
8. Give him some more Combos, When i try to attack as Lawbringer i feel quite limited.
9. Give him a special attack. Something that is unique to Lawbringer. Beserker has his Hyper armor, Peacekeeper has her GB Stabs, Warden has his Charged shoulder, Shaman and Shugoki have life drain attacks. Just something to make him Unique.

[Melikethegames]

This post is not saying that lawbringer is completely garbage

Alright, With that out of the way. I would like to say something I believe alot of people have said. Lawbringer at the moment, is quite garbage if you wanna be Offensive. Right now the only viable tactic you have is to Turtle. His Shove is really slow and quite easy to counter. All of his attacks except for maybe his top light are really slow and therefore are a breeze to parry. He doesnt even do that much damage for his slow attacks. You would think that if you had really slow heavies, they would do a lot of damage right? Nope! At least not for Lawbringer. His most powerful attack, His unblockable. Which i might add is also his slowest (I believe). Does 45 damage. Which is actually a good amount. But if you count in that the only way to guarentee this hit is to parry a light, which is quite hard to if you're fighting someone with really fast lights as Orochi or any other hero with really fast lights. But if you dont wanna parry lights, you could also just do a Light, Heavy, Heavy. Oh. But what was that? You have to do 1 heavy before you do your unblockable? So you basically have to do a slow attack, to then do an even slower Heavy attack? Not to mention, you can actually just dodge this Unblockable if you dont wanna risk parrying it.

The only really good thing Lawbringer has is his Shove on Block. Which if you're lucky, can turn really turn out good for you. If you're lucky enough to GB the person that you shoved. You can get in a heavy, maybe more if they keep trying to dodge away from the Shove. But still, this has some downsides since you can maybe get in 3 SHove + Heavies til you're out stamina. Not to mention, There are some non risk ways to get out of it as well. You could Side Attack which would counter a light attack or GB from the Lawbringer. You could do nothing incase the LB tried to GB, You could dodge if the LB tried to hit ya with a light. It's often just a 50/50 of what the LB will do.

The only way to be win as Lawbringer is to play Defensively. Which then includes the Block on Shove. Alot of people have told me that Lawbringer is great at being defensive. Which i agree on! But you're mostly defensive with blocking and not attacking unless you're good at parrying lights. Which i believe most people arent. So i think that we should Buff or Rework Lawbringer. Most likely Rework since i dont think making his attacks faster or stronger would change much, since if we would change him in any way. I would rather have it so he lost his shove on block,and got some other abilities instead. And i think just removing shove on block would be extremely bad for Lawbringer. Since that's the only good thing he has except for his Light parry attack.

So in my opinion. We should Rework Lawbringer, maybe not completely. But Give him some new abilities and remove some of his old ones.

I'll now list some things that I believe could be done to buff/rework Lawbringer. Do Note that i'm not saying ALL of these things should happen, just some small things i think would be good for Lawbringer. Again, I dont want all of these things to happen to Lawbringer. I'm simply just listing some ideas that could be used alongside others.

1. Make it so he could soft feint out of his heavies
2. Remove Shove-on-Block
3. Faster and/or Stronger heavies
4. A Side-Attack that does Damage (Not the Side Shove)
5. Either make the shove faster or make it so maybe the Lawbringer chould charge the shove as Warden, Basically make it more like Conq's Shieldbash or make it more like Warden's shoulderbash.
6. Replace/Change his Circle attack. His attack that hit's everyone is only good against minions since it's to slow to hit any real player.
7.More Health (Seriously, He's covered in Armor and doesnt have any more health than other heroes)
8. Give him some more Combos, When i try to attack as Lawbringer i feel quite limited.
9. Give him a special attack. Something that is unique to Lawbringer. Beserker has his Hyper armor, Peacekeeper has her GB Stabs, Warden has his Charged shoulder, Shaman and Shugoki have life drain attacks. Just something to make him Unique.

rason lawbringer not have hyperarmor couse his not heavy heroes another its only overpower suggestion

only one im can agree remove shove on block

[Goat_of_Vermund]

Maybe he should have the ability to softfeint shoves into a longarm. The biggest things he lacks are offensive gameplay and any serious response against shieldbashes, while he is too strong against directional attacks. His damage should also be higher, he needs more unblockables and hyperarmor.

And seriously, swap his role with conqueror. Conqueror is not a heavy, he is a vanguard-heavy hybrid.

[Kargish1]

rason lawbringer not have hyperarmor couse his not heavy hero

Didn't know Kensei, Tiandi, Berserker and Highlander were heavies

[MatsumotoXIII]

Say LB main hm?
In my last games was LB on top in kills, because he is made for turtling. And that is what all enemies do in games last months. Because if u wait on enemy attack, u can parry him and spamm him. LB game ...
Thats why i uninstall this sh*t broken game. Everyone just wait on attack for win (Shaman, Aramusha, LB ... ). Rly funny ...
Ah sorry ...Wu-Sh*t morons just spam unpredicaly fast hits couse broken.

[Lord.Warden.]

Lawbringer needs to be able to FEINT his bash. That's all he needs. Period.

[FrozenWritter]

Just making The Long Arm feintable would make him 10 times better.

[Melikethegames]

Didn't know Kensei, Tiandi, Berserker and Highlander were heavies

im means move think about warlord have passive its hyperarmor but kensei and tiandi have move only one hyperarmor