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    More helicopters

    Obviously I don’t mean in quantity. Let’s face it if if the Cartel had just gone into business selling helicopters they could have scrapped the drug trade.

    What I’d like is a little more variety in the helicopters available.

    Here’s a few suggestions of the top of my head.

    Lynx
    Merlin
    AH-6 Little bird
    Apache?
    Mil Mi35 Hind
    The now retro Huey
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    Ubi-Lucipus's Avatar Community Manager
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    I was thinking for a minute there that you'd want the sky filled with helicopters

    Thanks for those suggestions Hugo
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    I know a lot of Players dont like the flight-mechanics from the planes, but I´d also like to see more types of planes in this game.
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    The only question I can think of is: how much are you willing to pay for this additional content? In a game which is nearing the two-year mark.
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    Originally Posted by MikeWeeks Go to original post
    The only question I can think of is: how much are you willing to pay for this additional content? In a game which is nearing the two-year mark.

    Thinking about it is nice, but to believe in Ubisoft's implementation would be very naive.
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-Lucipus Go to original post
    I was thinking for a minute there that you'd want the sky filled with helicopters

    Thanks for those suggestions Hugo



    Originally Posted by Chris040990 Go to original post
    I know a lot of Players dont like the flight-mechanics from the planes, but I´d also like to see more types of planes in this game.
    More planes works for me as well.

    As for them being added. If not this game then maybe the next.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    Let’s face it if if the Cartel had just gone into business selling helicopters they could have scrapped the drug trade.
    Within ten minutes of gameplay and marksmanship, I should have bankrupted the country.
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    When you guys mention "more planes", are you referring to jets? If so, that wouldn't be possible due to both the game engine's inadequate rendering ranges and rates. That also explains why the game has such aberrant round trajectories. I, myself, would prefer that devs focus their efforts on producing an engine -- and card manufacturers on a card -- that can render targets significantly beyond (2x) the effective range of the longest range simulated weapon system that can be used... without sacrificing proximal detail. High expectations? Absolutely. Not being able to acquire a target 600m out because it's beyond rendering capabilities and therefore doesn't even 'exist' until you close the distance on a simulated rifle with a realistic effective range three plus times greater? Ridiculous. NB. The current record (2017) with the Tac-50 is 3450m... a fact the store conveniently neglects to mention, given that it isn't realizable in-game.

    If you'd introduce jet aircraft, you'd have to increase acquisition ranges exponentially beyond that. Moreover, that wouldn't be consistent with the resources (inc. runways) available to the scale of this fictional operation. It's clear that game limitations dictated focus on VTOL and slow moving aircraft and in the related issue on assault rifles, since the game's sniper rifles are essentially fluff.

    Hugo-FOU, based on your top two helicopter suggestions, I gather you're from the UK... I can respect that. I think the Apache would be serious overkill... the in-game Cobra is, too, but it's tempered with limited accessibility. Given the scope of the operation, the AH-6 and UH-60 are adequate for players to accomplish any given objective(s) with diversified gameplay. That's also done under the context of SOF. If we were 'stealing' Bolivian helicopters, they'd be the US UH-1, as well as various French models.

    Two things I'm glad were implemented with respect to flight in WL:
    1. Community request for improved flight control. The beta was, IMHO, complete dreck. It appeared as though the game was intended for ground vehicles and engagements and that aircraft -- even as transport -- was a half-***ed afterthought.
    2. My request to add offensive capabilities (guns, missiles) to pilotable aircraft. Being able strafe convoys, etc., with a minigun added a much needed element to the game. Too bad that they didn't also include my requested chaff and flares on the UH-60... that would have precluded having to do some unorthodox flight maneuvers, especially with respect to SAMs. As an aside, do you guys remember the first phase of implementing guns when we had limited ammo, and due to the still poor flight control, you'd run dry before disabling -- let alone destroying -- your first moving target? LOL.


    Originally Posted by MikeWeeks Go to original post
    The only question I can think of is: how much are you willing to pay for this additional content? In a game which is nearing the two-year mark.
    I think Mike hit it right on the head, here. New aircraft would require modelling, skinning, and coding, and subsequently cost. The fact that the community has managed to complete the game without subsequent needs indicates that it would be unnecessary. If you want it for amusement, then requests will vary. It would also be worth evaluating whether the "new" item would vary significantly from current availability to keep your attention enough to compensate for that cost. Beyond that, it would help knowing what the official and unofficial WL end game plans are.
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    Originally Posted by Hugo-FOU Go to original post
    What I’d like is a little more variety in the helicopters available.
    I wish we could get the Cobra in the rebel drops, but I wouldn't mind the rest of these, too!
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    You can get the cobra in rebel vehicles. You have to get it through crates though.
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