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[House789]

The Kensei and Warden have gotten some amazing updates to make them very versitile and formidable and i'm not saying the Raider isn't good but I truly feel like the Raider can't compete with the other two. The raider has, what, like 3 chains and has an unblockable attack with the charge. Raider is a two trick pony and I feel isn't versitile enough to keep up and it's frustrating to me

[sweedishpretzel]

I agree. He can barely compete but his combos are limited and theres no variety. He needs more moves and he's not really "adaptable" like it says in game. It would be awesome to see raider with a new extended and balanced move set.

[Tyrjo]

Raider got his rework well ahead of those two. The game was in another state back then. The Raider isn't as bad as people claim him to be, but he isn't fantastic. There are other heroes who needs their rework ahead of him though.

[Tasteewheat]

Raider got his rework well ahead of those two. The game was in another state back then. The Raider isn't as bad as people claim him to be, but he isn't fantastic. There are other heroes who needs their rework ahead of him though.

Go to anyone who seriously plays Raider and they will all tell you the exact same thing, he is in a terrible spot. It may not be so bad when you're in dominion where you can get away with stunning tap spam and stampede charge, but you go into duel and you'll instantly feel how bad of a spot he's in.

You try to do anything as raider in a real duel and it will either be turtled, parried or side dodged. You can try to do the zone into stunning tap but people will just guard top and side dodge, completely negating any threat the zone poses. That's if they don't just interupt everything you do with lights since even raiders light attacks are 600 ms with no hyper armor.

Try to feint? Good luck running out of stamina every couple of seconds, even then no decent player is going to react to raider feints because you're only going to feint into a guard break or another 600 ms attack. Compare that to beserkers relentless soft feint or highlanders kick into caber toss.

Granted, if you push raider as far as he can possibly go you can catch people out, but a win is entirely dependent on the other person making mistakes, failing parries or just not understanding Raider's attacks. There's some pretty decent Raider players out there like Flux Delux but even they have stated multiple times that Raider is severely under powered in duels and I can attest the same having put a few hundred hours into him myself.

[Vordred]

thats the problem with most of the old cast, thier moveset is very limited, which makes them both a bit boring to ply and can give them real problems keeping up with the new cast.

even characters like the berserker, warden and conq, that can do well need a new kit.

you can still compete with them, but most by just abusing the hell out of one thing. take the zerker, you never really use his kit, you just feint over and over again. and he really doesn't feel much like a berserker.

they need basically take some of these characters and pretend they are making them now as a new character.

[vsOroParryOnly]

I believe everyone agree that the raider is bad, but some other heroes deserves more attention because they're worse

[Kargish1]

Imo Raider needs a buff or one additional property in his kit, but he's not as weak as people make him out to be.