Shinobi NEEDS a Rework, and THIS Is How They Should Do It | Forums

[Ulffhedinn]

Been a shinobi player since release.. he doesnt need anything. Hes fine. Stale... thats not a balance issue. Stale just means hes old news and your bored because you havent diversified your hero pool enough yet. Step away from him for a season, come back next.
He is still a super strong hero, he is not meant to be played as a vangard damage hero that stays in yoru face. When he released he was so strong that they nerfed him in weeks. And what you are asking would put him right back up in that catagory because he has SO MUCH versatitilty. Its too dangerous to redo his moves and damage just because people who play him constantly are bored.

I played him for two seasons, went to aramusha, and recently decided to come back to him and he is a lot of fun. Heck, you guys JUST GOT the super armor buff... no need to give him more. he can dodge VERY well. His kicks, his smoke dodge comobs, and his long range attcks are all MEANT to be strategic. He is an EXCELLENT group fight hero, espeically with the right abilities slotted. And in duels, I see them do ok.
In the right hands he is closer to broken than he is to weak.
There are FAR more pertanent changes to heroes that VERY MUCH need a nerf to be done.

[Gabeeee.]

Been a shinobi player since release.. he doesnt need anything. Hes fine. Stale... thats not a balance issue. Stale just means hes old news and your bored because you havent diversified your hero pool enough yet. Step away from him for a season, come back next.
He is still a super strong hero, he is not meant to be played as a vangard damage hero that stays in yoru face. When he released he was so strong that they nerfed him in weeks. And what you are asking would put him right back up in that catagory because he has SO MUCH versatitilty. Its too dangerous to redo his moves and damage just because people who play him constantly are bored.

I played him for two seasons, went to aramusha, and recently decided to come back to him and he is a lot of fun. Heck, you guys JUST GOT the super armor buff... no need to give him more. he can dodge VERY well. His kicks, his smoke dodge comobs, and his long range attcks are all MEANT to be strategic. He is an EXCELLENT group fight hero, espeically with the right abilities slotted. And in duels, I see them do ok.
In the right hands he is closer to broken than he is to weak.
There are FAR more pertanent changes to heroes that VERY MUCH need a nerf to be done.

Shinobi can be nowhere near broken on pc he will always be under powered with his best move (kick) being super reactable and his lights are easy to block or parry

[Ru_Bolton]

Been a shinobi player since release.. he doesnt need anything. Hes fine. Stale... thats not a balance issue. Stale just means hes old news and your bored because you havent diversified your hero pool enough yet. Step away from him for a season, come back next.
He is still a super strong hero, he is not meant to be played as a vangard damage hero that stays in yoru face. When he released he was so strong that they nerfed him in weeks. And what you are asking would put him right back up in that catagory because he has SO MUCH versatitilty. Its too dangerous to redo his moves and damage just because people who play him constantly are bored.

I played him for two seasons, went to aramusha, and recently decided to come back to him and he is a lot of fun. Heck, you guys JUST GOT the super armor buff... no need to give him more. he can dodge VERY well. His kicks, his smoke dodge comobs, and his long range attcks are all MEANT to be strategic. He is an EXCELLENT group fight hero, espeically with the right abilities slotted. And in duels, I see them do ok.
In the right hands he is closer to broken than he is to weak.
There are FAR more pertanent changes to heroes that VERY MUCH need a nerf to be done.

You're right, and wrong. You don't get to describe what you think my issue is with the character - staleness out of a lack of other character experience (which is completely untrue by the way) - and proceed to explain why the character is balanced and thus doesn't need changing. His versatility means nothing if only a select few of those many options aren't completely useless in most situations. And so, by improving his worst option (in a relatively modest fashion, realistically), something players usually never think to use, he becomes more powerful, sure, but far more importantly, he becomes more interesting. That was my whole point. Let's not get too bent out of shape about the projected balance or imbalance of a change which has never been implemented before. That's what tests, both closed and open, are for.