The Monk can block attacks with his forearm. Can we have a brawler now please? | Forums

[Devils-_-legacy]

Scotland and the viking share quite a history so not a leap. Glad isn't a greek I assumed he was a roman gladiator. hopefully if they do add another brawler to the chinese fraction its a foshan varient style

[Wookiescantfly]

I can't tell which one you all want to see in the game more. Claws or Brawlers? I do have questions for those asking for brawlers though:

1. How do you think a brawler type would fit into the overall game itself?
2. What faction would a brawler be apart of and why? How would it match up against other worriers in terms of light/heavy attacks and defense? Should the brawler have an increased dodge speed?
3. What would be the brawler's backstory/history (just curious)?

Well the two practically go hand in hand, as a claw weapon is short range enough to be a brawler's "weapon" to help facilitate their combat style. For example, the Tekko-Kagi can be used both defensively and offensively and are effectively a gauntlet type weapon. Were the samurai faction to wind up with a brawler style character, it's entirely likely that, for the sake of having some sort of historical authenticity as you do with the rest of the cast, this character would wind up using this tool to help with their combat style rather than just focusing on Akido or Judo to get their opponent on the ground for a quick finish.

1. A Brawler type character would function more or less as a better Nuxia as she exists in the game currently. Most likely a heavily offensive frontline type vanguard with Reflex Guard, but not too heavily armored to help them remain dexterous; probably around the same health/stamina as Raider or Gladiator. He'd be fast; probably 500ms light attacks across the board, with heavy finishers that have a very short stun; 1 or 2 seconds at most. Depending on the faction and the style of his combat, he'd probably be able to use Nuxia's trap mechanic better than she can. He would most likely have side dodge heavies with extended dodge that have a lot of eye frames, and feinting would be a major part of his mix up the same way it is for Berserker. However the character would have to have a very high skill floor to figure out how to use effectively without just resorting to light or bash spamming to make him effective.. His trap would be a soft feinted heavy, but the trap itself needs to function like a guardbreak that can't be countered if you're blocking or emoting in the direction its done in. The TLDR of this is that the Brawler would be everything you wanted the Centurion to be; a hyper aggressive, "in your face" fighter that makes it hard to turtle against with his mix up options while still being balanced enough to be counterable.

2. For the sake of personal preference, Knights, and as a new Vanguard character (it's no secret that we'd like to see a full 32 character roster if possible, with 2 of each class per faction). This is mainly because the idea of a character using Cestus gauntlets to turn the other heroes's heroes faces into ground beef is about as satisfying as watching Conqueror do it with his flail's mace head in his most recent execution. (BTW I love that execution). His lights should be in the 500ms ballpark range, with a single jab combo similar to Shaolin's three hit poke, and his heavies should probably be 600-700ms. His attack range should be as short, if not a tad shorter, than Nuxia's. As far as defenses are concerned, we're probably looking at a slightly better armored Gladiator at around 130 HP / 140 Stamina. Rather than giving him faster dodge speed, giving him extended dodge on default side dodges and superior block on forward dodges might be something to consider just to keep dodge speeds within the same ballpark across the board. iirc this should also let him get a gb off of a well timed forward dodge.

3. without making this post too much longer, since you've already done the bit about a prisoner being forced to fight for his freedom (conqueror) and a Colosseum gladiator finding their way to the front lines, why not have the brawler be a wandering pilgrim who seeks to dispatch the enemies of his home in the name of the lord (kinda Joan of Arc style)

[OneLaw4you]

Next sun ce from dynasty warriors used Tonfas just saying 👀

[Hormly]

You do know that the Shaolin monks don't just use staffs right? They also use swords, their fists, their classic staffs and etc. The whole Wu-lin could probably be just Shaolin with the JJ, Nuxia and Tiandi's weapon and it could probably work.

So you want another monk with a different weapon... don't think that's a bit of a wasted character slot?

[Tareyus]

So you want another monk with a different weapon... don't think that's a bit of a wasted character slot?

No, I agree that that would be a wasted slot. What I was trying to say was that the Shaolin monks didn't just use staffs. Nowhere in there did I say I wanted another Shaolin monk. They're fricken cancer. What I said was that if all the wulin were monks, it could probrobly work.