Suggestion for LB and Shugoki | Forums

[wethebishop]

It's not secret that these two, and some other older characters, have trouble opening people up. I think instead of going the direction of doing something like simply speeding up their attacks, which can lead to frustration for newer players and higher latency players, new simple mechanics can be developed, kind of like how Nuxia has a new mechanic with her traps. Speeding up attacks and making more "mix-ups" can make players feel like the game is just about mindless reaction times or guessing, both of which can lead to players quitting.

For the LB and Shugoki, I think it would be cool their heavy attacks had a quality that if blocked by the enemy drains and/or pauses their stamina regeneration. It would make sense because they have big, powerful slow swings that would be hard to block.

Gameplay-wise, it would add another dimension without the added frustration of simply not being able to react to something. If someone thinks you're going to do a light attack but instead you do a heavy, they do this thing where they start the heavy in order to parry the light, but then feint the heavy in time to block the heavy. Or, if someone thinks you're going to do a heavy, they wait to try to parry it or they block it. Under this new mechanic for the LB and Shugoki, blocking would be punished, so if someone were thinking that you were going to follow-through with a heavy, what you could do in order to counter their thinking is feint a heavy and then follow up with another heavy. And if they thought you were going to do that, what they could do is just start a heavy when you start your heavy and their heavy would arrive before your second heavy.

Depending on the arbitrary degree of stamina drain/pause, I think it would add more dimensions to the gameplay for the LB and Shugoki, and make the game more thinking oriented instead of reaction oriented. Still, at its most simple, it does boil down to guessing, but relatively less consequential and more step-by-step guessing than what many of the characters in this game already have.

[TSCDescon]

The devs has been keeping these two VERY quiet. No news about them getting rework even though I see forum post that Shugoki IS getting one, but theres no evidence for that besides a old warriors den video only to see the guy say, "we WOULD like to buff Shugoki". Hence the word, WOULD. That means they haven't even decided to do so. Let's not start with LB too. Apparently, these outdated characters are TOP TIER on their list of DATA.

[Soldier_of_Dawn]

They are currently looking at Shugoki suggestions in the thread below. Join the discussion:

The fight team is looking at Shugoki. Is there anything you think they should look at in particular?

I feel for Shugoki players
https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...hugoki-players