Marching Fire rant - feel so let down | Forums

[Real_Doll]

I do not enjoy this game anymore, I spent so long farming gear on my Nobushi to compliment a play style that I enjoyed: Loadout 1: Revenge based (for dominion) Loadout 2: Stamina Based (for duels)

On top of this I spent so many months just practicing and mastering my favorite hero, just player vs AI matches back to back, experimenting with different stats combinations etc.

Now gear stats have been replaced with these so called perks which are utterly useless to me and the game just isn't fun anymore. I'm being killed even before I can get the revenge meter full & I'm constantly out of stamina now, where as prior to marching fire I had held my ground vs the entire enemy team on some occasions.
I have already farmed the gear to have 2 perks active on my hero but it still doesn't feel right.
I've seen some people say that if someone had to rely on stats to make the hero effective that means the heroes are unbalanced. Not true, the stats just allowed players to pick a hero and create a play style for themselves. The stats only gave a minor boost towards a certain play style, in my experience the rest came down to skill, tactics, timing and the ability to outsmart your opponent.

Also I saw another post by Ubisoft stating that the players had asked for the change in armor, not once have I seen anyone making a post requesting armor stats to be changed. I've seen multiple posts regarding the drawbacks for some stats, but that made sense to me if not for the drawbacks then the hero would just be too OP, the drawbacks were a way of balancing that out.
In my opinion the perks could have come in as an armor & weapon set bonus while still keeping the stats. for eg. a 2 piece bonus and 3 piece bonus for having multiple armor pieces of the same set.

And what the hell is up with killing minions now? prior to marching fire it used to be fluid with a combination of weapon attacks, kicks & punches and felt awesome, now it's just stand there and randomly poke....

Ubisoft you have lost a faithful player, I put a lot of hours into this game, defended this game despite all it's flaws at launch, server issues etc. convinced my friends to get it even though they were super skeptic about it. I just feel like the only thing Ubisoft is good at is making great games with good potential and then ****ing it up down the line.
To sum it up the game just isn't fun anymore, it doesn't feel rewarding anymore, it just feels like a dumbed down tedious grind now.

[Illyrian_King]

I have to disappoint you, but your second stamina loadout for Duells didn't come to action anyway, because gear stats are turned off in Duell.

You never had a stamina buff in 1vs1.

But beside this, this change was 1 of 3 things I didn't like about this patch.

2) is the new victory celebration screen, because the Dominion Cutscenes were way cooler.

3) is that the old Dominion minion kill animations are gone.


But there rest of Marching Fire is super cool.

[Specialkha]

Haha stats gave a minor boost? Are you high?

A 180 gear hero were far superior in everything than a rep 0 hero.

Now, you get crushed because you are not carried by your stats anymore.

And we can start to play a new hero without facing full team of 180 geared hero.

[Real_Doll]

Now, you get crushed because you are not carried by your stats anymore.

you're an idiot
I've gone head to head against high rep players and won because I've either outsmarted them or luck was on my side. So I suggest you get good if you believe stats were everything.

After the Marching Fire hype dies down the game will be dead like it was a couple of months after it's launch. The devs did a good job reviving it again but they messed it up now.
Go look at all the recent steam reviews. That's going to be hitting mostly negative pretty soon too

https://steamcharts.com/app/304390

[Lord_Cherubi]

I have to disappoint you, but your second stamina loadout for Duells didn't come to action anyway, because gear stats are turned off in Duell.

You never had a stamina buff in 1vs1.

But beside this, this change was 1 of 3 things I didn't like about this patch.

2) is the new victory celebration screen, because the Dominion Cutscenes were way cooler.

3) is that the old Dominion minion kill animations are gone.


But there rest of Marching Fire is super cool.

Here's my 2 cents:

1) Imo the perks are far more interesting and varied than the simple buff STAM/DMG/REVENGE builds

2) the cutscenes were awesome at first but after seeing them like a million times i got so fed up that i welcome the victory screen with open arms (alltho i gotta point out that some of the victory animations don't even play for full duration as the screen lasts for such a short time, at least it seems that way)

3) I truly miss tge old animations, one of the things that's always been praised highly but the truth is you can't have everything im afraid. People have been crying for tougher minions forever (and rightfully so) but how exactly would the one kill animations work now that the minions last 2-3 hits? :P

[Illyrian_King]

Haha stats gave a minor boost? Are you high?

A 180 gear hero were far superior in everything than a rep 0 hero.

Now, you get crushed because you are not carried by your stats anymore.

And we can start to play a new hero without facing full team of 180 geared hero.

You are an idiot

[CandleInTheDark]

You are an idiot

I don't know how often you levelled up new characters under the old system but as someone who switched platforms and as someone who reps up a large number of characters (intent on getting everyone to rep eight before going on a grind towards the rep cap with one) there were many times I took a grey geared character into tribute or dominion and got hit with an attack that by itself, between their high attack and my low defence, was 80 hp, this is before you think about revenge or stamina. It got to the point where until I was in teal armour I felt that I was hindering my team and only played dominion vs ai.

In the current setup I can take my wu lin right into breach and I have the same chance anyone else has whether I have found the perks I like or whether I am waiting on gear for a perk to drop, that is a far healthier state of play in what is supposed to be a skill based fighter pvp. Under the old system it felt like the gear was 90% of what made a fight likely to swing one way or the other and it should not be that way.

[EvoX.]

Agreed with Specialkha and Candle.

Now I'm afraid you can't just turtle and get revenge every 5 blocks, nor can you have twice the stamina, nor can you hit for 60+ damage. Good riddance to that, so I suggest you rely more on your smarts and luck that you mentioned from now on, which is hardly a bad thing - having to use skill instead of leaning on big numbers.

[Sweaty_Sock]

Agreed with Specialkha and Candle.

Now I'm afraid you can't just turtle and get revenge every 5 blocks, nor can you have twice the stamina, nor can you hit for 60+ damage. Good riddance to that, so I suggest you rely more on your smarts and luck that you mentioned from now on, which is hardly a bad thing - having to use skill instead of leaning on big numbers.

How about not assuming you are better at the game then people complaining? I'm annoyed because the system should have been fixed at launch, not years into it after you've been forced to spend steel/salvage/time grinding through to end up with a worthless set of perks (my warden has 1720 on a single perk), on top of which you were forced to delete all your gear due to a 60 item cap. Basically they took the time & effort and wiped their &ss with it. THATS why we are angry

[Specialkha]

Did you never played some game where a new xpac launch and renders everything you did useless? Like seriously, did you never play some kind of Rpg or mmo?