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[Illyrian_King]

Why would they rework him when they just gave him a nerf?

Solid argument ... it perfectly fits in their balancing patterns.

Lawbringer and Shugoki should be on top of their priority list.

Raider is not "fine" by any means, but still one step above LB and Shug.

Unfortunately I am a fanatic LB main, and having hin this weak really reduces my Breach fun, eventhough he is way better in 4vs4 then in 1vs1. But often I face 1vs1 in Breach since the maps are so big (which is basically a good thing).

[OhHowSheGoingEh]

whats he got? 1. stun-tap variation, 2 Stampede Charge, 3. Most parried unblockable in the game.

that's it? no hyper Armour, no deflects, no bleeds, nada, nothing, i'm not saying for one second that the LB doesn't need some love but there's a bit of a meme about Raiders that just isn't deserved,

What does lawbringers have? Shove on block and all three options after that are easy to deal with. Lawbringer has no hyper armor, no deflects and no bleed attacks. His shove on block is just an annoyance and that's all lawbringer is right now sadly. An annoyance.

[teddy0teddy]

The chars that I think deserve some love in one form or another, this being anywhere from smaller buffs to being reworked completely.
Lawbringer, centurion, raider, warlord, shugoki, nobushi, shinobi and aramusha.

[yfkutfui]

What does lawbringers have? Shove on block and all three options after that are easy to deal with. Lawbringer has no hyper armor, no deflects and no bleed attacks. His shove on block is just an annoyance and that's all lawbringer is right now sadly. An annoyance.

your evading the question, you are the one who claimed the Raider was in a far better spot than the LB, i listed what he (Raider) has and asked you how he is better than the LB?

you didn't answer because you don't have one, it seems fashionable to hate on the Raider but the fact is he has absolutely nothing, a crap move set and crap feats, the fact that he does as well as he does is a testament to the people who play him, doing a lot with very little, the LB does have more in my opinion, the pierce, the pancake flip, the shove, more bombs than a B52, a large HP pool, lets just say they both need attention, claiming that the Raider is better though is not true or fair.

[Armosias]

your evading the question, you are the one who claimed the Raider was in a far better spot than the LB, i listed what he (Raider) has and asked you how he is better than the LB?

you didn't answer because you don't have one, it seems fashionable to hate on the Raider but the fact is he has absolutely nothing, a crap move set and crap feats, the fact that he does as well as he does is a testament to the people who play him, doing a lot with very little, the LB does have more in my opinion, the pierce, the pancake flip, the shove, more bombs than a B52, a large HP pool, lets just say they both need attention, claiming that the Raider is better though is not true or fair.

Pancake flip huh? That thing hit one time out of 10 tries and is punished by free GB you know.

Also please don't forget that Raider have hyper armor on stunning tap, which is much easier to use than shove since it is a dodge attack and a light coming from zone and heavies soft feints. Raider is also the only hero in For Honor with a dodge guardbreak

[Illyrian_King]

Pancake flip huh? That thing hit one time out of 10 tries and is punished by free GB you know.

Also please don't forget that Raider have hyper armor on stunning tap, which is much easier to use than shove since it is a dodge attack and a light coming from zone and heavies soft feints. Raider is also the only hero in For Honor with a dodge guardbreak

1/10 times??

That would even be an improvement!

Raider has his out of stamina mix ups, higher damage output and an unblockable from neutral. And his stunning tap lands more often then a LB shove from neutral.

Raider is better then Lawbringer.

Both need a rework, but LB needs it harder, and this is also what every top tier player says.

[Vrbas1]

I think my brain just might fall out, people actually believe Lawbringer > Raider

They both are in need of reworks, but LB's kit is abysmal when compared to Raider's. Again, LB has ONE move that keeps him from falling flat on his face (shove on block) and some people still have the nerve to complain about it in his current state.

[NHLGoldenKnight]

I play both and it is much easier at least for me to play as Raider. Seems faster, better stamina , more useful moves overall which force enemy's reaction. With LB, it is very hard to do anything other than turtle and pray for your friends to come.

Look at that new heavy for God's sake. He is basically LB that can move fast as Nobushi with a lot of useful attacks and unblocakbles.

But to be fair, not only LB is severely damaged by new perk system. Conq, Shugo, Warlord, Valk are also not in greatest position.

[Hormly]

A salute to anyone who refuses to abandon their OG mains no matter how obsolete they become

[Illyrian_King]

A salute to anyone who refuses to abandon their OG mains no matter how obsolete they become

Unfortunately I love halberds and impressive plate armour ... and this sucker has both of it :/

If he just also had a viable kit ...