LVOA-C needs a damage buff | Forums

[Hunter20112]

I would be fine with an equal LVOA-C compared to the rest of the ARs.
I tested it on Normal mode an needed 4-7 hits (or more) for S&B soldiers.
While the M4 Commando just need 3-5 hits.

[RedCeII]

If it kept its low damage but got a range & accuracy/handling buff, that’s be fine by me.

I don’t think it necessarily needs to be more powerful damage-wise. It does need something though.

[Kean_1]

You're absolutely right, it doesn't matter in terms of Fairness because of the Single Player Aspect.
But nonetheless People definitely would say that paying additional Money brings Advantages (higher DPS) to the Player = Pay to win.

I agree that in essence, it is a type of P2W model if bought weapons are more effective / lethal than what you can find in-game. That would certainly give players who pay an advantage. .....and while playing solo may not affect others, certainly there would be an impact when playing "co-op". I think some are forgetting about that aspect. If people are going to be interacting with others in the campaign that have access to more superior weapons than they do, that will certainly have an effect on the gameplay experience for them and probably not in a positive way (at least for some).

Either way, if better weapons are locked behind a paywall then I can also see people complaining that Ubi is purposely keeping the good stuff "behind the counter" that can dramatically change the balance on harder difficulties or modes like Tier One and GM. .....and make challenges easier, etc. Some could even accuse Ubi of purposely making those things even more difficult to encourage people to buy the better weapons they offer in-store.

Personally, I think Ubi has made the right move in that respect by keeping things that are locked behind the paywall mostly cosmetic.

[Hunter20112]

Nobody asked for an overlord weapon just a LVOA-C which is on par with the others.
The 416 is a pretty nice one so where is the problem to make the LVOA-C make equal.

At least now how this rifle is it is for me unplayable.

[Kean_1]

Nobody asked for an overlord weapon just a LVOA-C which is on par with the others.
The 416 is a pretty nice one so where is the problem to make the LVOA-C make equal.

At least now how this rifle is it is for me unplayable.

....actually, someone did suggest it.

Personally, I don't see a problem with paid weapons being on par with ones that are currently available.

[Kane_sg]

I don't have the gun and I don't really use the LVOAC Division and Bad News. But I'm surprised the complain thread goes up to 2 pages and yet I still don't see anyone bringing up other stats such as Reload Speed into account.

Some weaker AR have high reload speed and smaller recoil to compensate the low damage, for example. So what does the LVOA-C have in this regard that considers it to be 'weaker' than other AR?

[ManticButton]

I don't have the gun and I don't really use the LVOAC Division and Bad News. But I'm surprised the complain thread goes up to 2 pages and yet I still don't see anyone bringing up other stats such as Reload Speed into account.

Some weaker AR have high reload speed and smaller recoil to compensate the low damage, for example. So what does the LVOA-C have in this regard that considers it to be 'weaker' than other AR?

high recoil and average handiling
reload speed ain't nothin special either

has decent bullet drop though not better than any other assault rifle though
so its a bad gun that looks cool

[frodonr]

It needs a buff

[Glass_Ghost]

It fires the same 5.56 round as every other AR in the game, thus should have the exact base damage as every other 5.56 calibur weapon.

I really hope that ubisoft put some real r&d into how weapon platforms and ball ammo works in future installments, and stop treating their weapons with individual rpg stats based on rarity.

From what I understand from my personal network (I am a combat engineer not a "operator"), in real life the LVOA-C is a horribly unreliable platform that you would only see on the range in the hands of untrained civilians who were trying to look tacticool. The manufactur of the LVOA-C, Warsports industries has gone dark since late 2017, and recently been acquired by ZRODELTA.

Because all ammo is universal in GRW, weapon stats should be based on the following

Damage: ball calibur

Handeling: weight / barrel length / attachment

Fire rate: gas system / trigger mech

Range: ball calibur / barrel length / attachment

Accuracy: ball callibur / sight / attachment / barrel length

Penetration: ball calibur

Noise reduction: ball calibur / muzzle attachment

Essentially the take away is that all 5.56 platforms should have identicle damage and penetration stats. This should also be so for each other calibur family represented in the game, aside from the splinter cell fiveseven, which requires match grade / sub callibur ammo to facilitate noise reduction without a external silencer

[CYBER_PUNK_SEB]

I haven't purchased it, so I don't know personally. However the general opinion of many is that the LVOA is a little under powered.
I won't be buying it until I'm justly compensated for my other issues.
Including the one below!!

Playing devils advocate a little, its probably hard to get excited about it for many, because the bad news kicks its veritable booty on damage.
The bad news simply looks like a bad Hentai movie, I won't use it.

I own practically all the DLC guns, few are good, some are okay, and many are terrible.

I was kinda hoping for better stats on DLC guns myself, considering it is a single player, or Coop Vs Environment game?

Speaking of guns, you know how you can buy the in game guns so you don't have to collect them everywhere like a lunatic,
and actually enjoy the game from the start?

Yeah in Ghost mode, Narco Road (not sure about fallen ghosts) you have to go and collect them anyway,
even though you've paid for them. So that's rewarding, not!!

Not the attachments though, yeah they're available and absolutely useless without the guns to put them on!!

Once again, paying for content that simply isn't there, how would you like this if it happened to you.
Buy a new car, and the radio only works on the highway!!