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    Thisnis why perma-death modes are stupid.

    They know everyone is just going to exploit the system, so why even bother?

    In my opinion, Ghost Mode should just remove the entire Skill Tree and give the player access to the minimal amount of equipment from the start (no recoil buffs, no ammo capacity upgrades, etc.), add health bars from Ghost War, and utilize the new realism mods (one primary, realistic reloading) to actually give the game a nee degree of challenge as opposed to a mere inconvenience of having to reload your cloud save when you die because you fell through the map.
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    Originally Posted by RedCeII Go to original post
    Thisnis why perma-death modes are stupid.

    They know everyone is just going to exploit the system, so why even bother?

    In my opinion, Ghost Mode should just remove the entire Skill Tree and give the player access to the minimal amount of equipment from the start (no recoil buffs, no ammo capacity upgrades, etc.), add health bars from Ghost War, and utilize the new realism mods (one primary, realistic reloading) to actually give the game a nee degree of challenge as opposed to a mere inconvenience of having to reload your cloud save when you die because you fell through the map.
    That would have made more sense to me than making PD a backbone for this new mode. ......but I still think these features should have been an option in the main game so folks would have had a choice in how they want to tailor their gameplay experience.
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    Originally Posted by XenresEU Go to original post
    Doing backups is simply cheating this mode. If You die You die simple game over that's the point and how it should be.
    I started playing week ago campaign mode with friend on extreme.
    And when he's not around Ghost Mode on advanced didn't die single time yet( n didn't encounter any bugs)
    Maybe try to be careful next time.
    Perhaps have another read of the original post. OP died due to a glitch. How exactly should they be more careful? Play on a different system?

    Originally Posted by Kean_1 Go to original post
    .....and the problem with that is?

    We're not talking PvP cheats here. The backup is a work-around to glitch / silly-mechanic deaths. It is also (in my case) a work-around for those of us who have zero interest in a permadeath mode but still want to play with the other long requested features we have asked for since release. .....features most had asked for as options in the main game which Ubi unfortunately locked behind this new mode.

    Either way, this has an absolute, zero effect on anyone but the player performing the save so I really don't see why some would even be concerned about it. .....and yeah, they can keep the exo suit silliness as I have no interest in that either.
    It’s how I play it. Ghost mode ‘lite’ if you like. I’ll have to repaet a bit if I die but not back to the beginning. It’s an individual playing experience that in no way effects anyone else. Some people just feel their ‘achievements’ are devalued if other get there by different methods.
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    I like to think of Ghost Mode as the arcade version of GRW. When I was a kid you couldn't save your game when you went to the arcade, and often you would get really far and then die because of some BS or a glitch but it was fun trying and seeing how far you got even if the circumstance of how you lost was totally unfair. I understand the time investment is different here but that is the attitude I approach Ghost Mode with. I already beat it and unlocked everything I want from it so now I just treat it like a really huge and fun version of a classic arcade game. Keep the character you want to preserve for campaign and just enjoy the fun of trying in GM.

    I do agree that things from GM should be able to port over to campaign. I still have the 2 weapons glitch in my current GM and it's annoying because that challenge was part of the appeal..
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    I'd go with that @R.B.Haze except that you have to spend a long time rebuilding your character in terms of skill and weapon collection.

    If GM took all that out and was simply a campaign run through with a fully kitted out character, I'd give it more time. Collecting all the weapons, skills, bonus medals etc is a chore.
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    Originally Posted by Kean_1 Go to original post
    .....and the problem with that is?

    We're not talking PvP cheats here. The backup is a work-around to glitch / silly-mechanic deaths. It is also (in my case) a work-around for those of us who have zero interest in a permadeath mode but still want to play with the other long requested features we have asked for since release. .....features most had asked for as options in the main game which Ubi unfortunately locked behind this new mode.

    Either way, this has an absolute, zero effect on anyone but the player performing the save so I really don't see why some would even be concerned about it. .....and yeah, they can keep the exo suit silliness as I have no interest in that either.
    This is how I play. I couldn’t care less what anyone else thinks. I also think there’s no justification for whining about permanent death. Either backup your saves or embrace it. Complaining is not an option here.
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    Originally Posted by Punisher Cork Go to original post
    Just lost a huge save at Tier 16 because of a glitch. I'm on xbox, so no backup save. You are ****ing ******ed ********ers. You cost me a massive amount of time over a mode that is not ****ing ready or finished. **** you. **** you. **** you.
    Check out this way to save your GM on XB1 Punisher
    https://www.reddit.com/r/GhostRecon/...ffline_if_you/
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