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  1. #21
    Charmzzz's Avatar Senior Member
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    Originally Posted by Illyrian_King Go to original post
    Lawbringer with 51% in Duell??

    Impossible. The best players you can find, keep telling how much he lacks. I main him since launch, and against passive players i also crumble away.

    I am really curious about the S7 charts.

    He really needs a rework!
    Face an Assassin and Shove-On-Block them to hell. Occasionally your light will come through, and you have higher health, and they couldnt do sh*t to you due to the Guard Stance Switch Bug... 51% is, btw, not very high. Ubi just tries to make it look like LB, Cent and Shugo are fine so they dont have to rework them...
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    Ummm you sure?

    Originally Posted by Siegfried-Z Go to original post
    Sorry but i've stop reading after that... Raider is already a beast and with what you're saying he would become the strongest and unbalanced char of the whole game.

    He's gonna be ebuff already in S7 btw with GB side heavy and on throw too which is so stupid... he is already a very annoying char in 4v4 and gonna be worst.

    His game is 4v4, That's not because he is not shining in 1v1 that it means he needs that much buff.
    You’re overthinking it. He can only mix you up after he lands the stunning tap. His side heavy after GB was an unintended change that’s not going through. The only thing I’m suggesting is giving him neutral pressure.
    All that I suggested for raider equates to neutral pressure and mix ups. Nothing OP about that. You should read the rest of what I typed.
    Raider isn’t a beast. Raider is hot garbage. If you don’t know this or that the change for his side heavies on GB weren’t going through as an actual change. I don’t think you need to be spreading your opinion around.

    Bezerker literally has a better version of this and he is viable, not a broken complete monster. Use your head please. Comments like yours are the reason nothing gets fixed in the game.
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    Needsbalancing clearly must not know about how strong stampede charge is in 4v4, or mustn’t know about the strength of the unparryable unblockable Zone that will deal 50+ damage to all around it. So yeah, Raider is a Beast.
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    Originally Posted by Needsbalancing Go to original post
    Raider isn’t a beast. Raider is hot garbage. If you don’t know this or that the change for his side heavies on GB weren’t going through as an actual change. I don’t think you need to be spreading your opinion around.

    Bezerker literally has a better version of this and he is viable, not a broken complete monster. Use your head please. Comments like yours are the reason nothing gets fixed in the game.
    Oh yeah, sure. That's why Raider is Top 3 in Dominion Winrate and Top 1 in Dominion Pickrate. Because he is hot garbage, right?

    Stampede is THE BEST ganking tool in the game. Chained unlocked unparryable Zone dealing 70+ Damage (with Gear Stats and Revenge) on a single hit to EVERYONE around him is fine too, right?
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    Originally Posted by Siegfried-Z Go to original post
    He's gonna be ebuff already in S7 btw with GB side heavy and on throw too which is so stupid... he is already a very annoying char in 4v4 and gonna be worst.
    Wow-wow-woah hold your horses. This has already been announced that this won't be the case. It was just a test for variable/different timings for heavies (like 750 ms or so) and how that would work out for parries and GB vulnerability and stuff IN the public test. Due to that he got tempoarily that side heavy off of a GB which was unintended!
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    You guys tried it lol

    Originally Posted by Needsbalancing Go to original post
    You’re overthinking it. He can only mix you up after he lands the stunning tap. His side heavy after GB was an unintended change that’s not going through. The only thing I’m suggesting is giving him neutral pressure.
    All that I suggested for raider equates to neutral pressure and mix ups. Nothing OP about that. You should read the rest of what I typed.
    Raider isn’t a beast. Raider is hot garbage. If you don’t know this or that the change for his side heavies on GB weren’t going through as an actual change. I don’t think you need to be spreading your opinion around.

    Bezerker literally has a better version of this and he is viable, not a broken complete monster. Use your head please. Comments like yours are the reason nothing gets fixed in the game.
    Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
    Oh yeah, sure. That's why Raider is Top 3 in Dominion Winrate and Top 1 in Dominion Pickrate. Because he is hot garbage, right?

    Stampede is THE BEST ganking tool in the game. Chained unlocked unparryable Zone dealing 70+ Damage (with Gear Stats and Revenge) on a single hit to EVERYONE around him is fine too, right?
    Well to sum this up. Gear stats are getting taken out of the game. What I typed is from a 1v1 prospective. The things I’ve suggested to buff him has nothing to do with his zone or his stampede. You mentioning his zone is is hilarious considering Highlander can use 40 damage heavies in gank situations and toss and kick. Warden can bash you off the map, bash you into attacks. Glad toe stab opens you up to attacks etc etc etc. your points suck. The stamina he uses when he zones is ridiculous. Compared to the heroes I mentioned he is hot garbage. His zone is very parriable, In fact one of the easiest things to parry in the game. And it has a long startup and he can get hit out of it if he were doing the unlocked unblockable or not. So yes. He is not a beast. He’s hot garbage.

    Those win rates aren’t even accurate btw and they are irrevant. Expected more from you charmzzz because you saw lawbringer win rate and said “impossible” and then you’re going to use those incorrect stats as evidence😂 hilarious.

    His zone, stampede, and stunning tap is all he has apart from guardbreaks.

    ChampionRuby50G
    Charmzzz
    You guys clearly don’t understand.

    Oh and again, dumb comments like the ones you two brought up are why nothing gets fixed in the game.
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    Top 2.5% of For Honor players on PC and Console combined.

    Are serious? Here cringe level is going high,i like to give my tip to add even Rainbow operator to this list so it can sky up over the top.

    I like to know how you can give us a stats of all the thing mixed up, i understand the game is called the same for all the platform, but the performance are different,so if next time you want post something like this you have to do it for PC\Ps4\Xbox or don't post nothing because it fell like a joke otherwise.
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    Thanks Ubi, nice post. Clear breakdown and understandable explanations. Agree with most of it. I do not understand most complaints here, as obviously everyone is just talking about their own little world. Looking at the quite controversial discussions throughout the forum, it gets clear that not everyone has the same experiences.

    It is understandable to look only at the top 2.5% as otherwise the lack of skill woud outweigh the heros abilities.
    However: the lower lever player are the majority, and therefore it might be even more important to address the issues there - like light spam, Ama light-chain, Cent.,... in order to keep the 97.5% of players playing, and not to lose them to other games. The top 2.5% would either stay anyway, or should move on by now, as they already spent too much time with For Honor... ;-p
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    Originally Posted by Tyrfing_. Go to original post
    Thanks Ubi, nice post. Clear breakdown and understandable explanations. Agree with most of it. I do not understand most complaints here, as obviously everyone is just talking about their own little world. Looking at the quite controversial discussions throughout the forum, it gets clear that not everyone has the same experiences.

    It is understandable to look only at the top 2.5% as otherwise the lack of skill woud outweigh the heros abilities.
    However: the lower lever player are the majority, and therefore it might be even more important to address the issues there - like light spam, Ama light-chain, Cent.,... in order to keep the 97.5% of players playing, and not to lose them to other games. The top 2.5% would either stay anyway, or should move on by now, as they already spent too much time with For Honor... ;-p
    What even is this comment?
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    Originally Posted by Needsbalancing Go to original post
    Well to sum this up. Gear stats are getting taken out of the game. What I typed is from a 1v1 prospective. The things I’ve suggested to buff him has nothing to do with his zone or his stampede. You mentioning his zone is is hilarious considering Highlander can use 40 damage heavies in gank situations and toss and kick. Warden can bash you off the map, bash you into attacks. Glad toe stab opens you up to attacks etc etc etc. your points suck. The stamina he uses when he zones is ridiculous. Compared to the heroes I mentioned he is hot garbage. His zone is very parriable, In fact one of the easiest things to parry in the game. And it has a long startup and he can get hit out of it if he were doing the unlocked unblockable or not. So yes. He is not a beast. He’s hot garbage.

    Those win rates aren’t even accurate btw and they are irrevant. Expected more from you charmzzz because you saw lawbringer win rate and said “impossible” and then you’re going to use those incorrect stats as evidence�� hilarious.

    His zone, stampede, and stunning tap is all he has apart from guardbreaks.

    ChampionRuby50G
    Charmzzz
    You guys clearly don’t understand.

    Oh and again, dumb comments like the ones you two brought up are why nothing gets fixed in the game.
    Again a funny guy.

    So, it is us which are people causing problems ? Are you sure it is not you as someone judging so fast and saying we should use our head and even not comment if our opinions are not yours ?

    Hum, that's a constructive, clever and open mindset for sure which gonna help yes yes.

    Anyway, Champion and Charmzz, while you can disagree with some of their purpose as mine, are guys they know what they are talking so you're not looking very smart by just free trash talk them and me like that.

    About Raider, if you think the most played char in 4v4 and ranked 3rd of all in this kind of mode is so trash.. hum you've got a problem somewhere or misunderstood how to use him and exploit correctly his strong tools.

    I remember exactly what you just say : More chain, Faster light (so 400ms lights for a vanguard ??), less stam consumption and the best part .. tatata HA XD

    Can you imagine (if you even understand his potential), how strong he would become ? It means he could engage with fast lights, brain you in an infinite way with lots of chain and low stam consumption and despite of his strong DMG and UB Zone, having HA on some heavies ... Do you even realize the unbalanced char it would be ?

    My bad i didn't has the info Side heavies on GB was deleted, SORRY lol

    But it doesn't change the fact your saying unbielivable things and Trash talking guys which show you why.

    You should take your advices for yourself first.
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