HK416 vs LVOA-C | Forums

[Ghost-Ami]

I can say that the Relentless LVOA-C took two full 30-rd mags to destroy a parked rescue chopper (the Black Hawk one). That's pretty pitiful on the damage scale.

To be fair don't parked vehicles take way more damage than driven vehicles? Always seemed so to me. I figured it was some sort of "the vehicle is more unstable if the engine is running" logic or something.Or maybe just to make killing attacking enemy vehicles with small arms more practical for gameplay's sake.

[KingSpawn1979]

I can't remember seeing a Difference when it comes to parked or driving Vehicles.
If the LVOA really needs two Mags to kill a Vehicle then it's strange, cause even one SMG Mag is enough to destroy an unarmored Vehicles.

[shobhit7777777]

Remington? A good rep? Kek. XD

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I liked how compact the RGP looked

I'm basically the same though, I use weapons in game that I'd use in the physical world regardless of how the game treats them performancewise. Fortunately in the end no GRW weapon is that much better or worse than any other.

Likewise. I always ignore stats. And you're right...I don't see a noticeable difference within weapon classes.

The DDM4 should fit the bill.

IMHO...it'd be THE Ar variant to have. Looks great and is actually in service. Furthermore, it checks the deniable checkbox because it is essentially another AR in a country with multiple AR variants.

[TemporalSoldier]

Perhaps parked vehicles do take more damage, but I speak from a certain point of view that I could have perhaps explained more thoroughly.

Usually, I only get to play GRW after the kids and wife are in bed. After playing for a couple of hours, I wind down by returning to a Rebel hideout, removing my suppressor (b/c I play pretty much exclusively with it equipped), and destroying every vehicle in sight (who knows why I do this...). Since I do this >50% of the time, I feel I have a pretty good feel for what it takes to destroy certain vehicles and the Relentless LVOA-C felt pretty puny.

I grinded for the Bad News with my primary character, but by the time I got to Tier5, there was nothing left to do. It's disapointing to me (though entirely expected from Ubisoft) that the customizable LVOA-C we got is just a recolored (and modifiable) Division edition. If Ubi can get the 30rd mag issue figured out, I might run with the LVOA on my secondary (low-level, non-Tier) character, but as far as this discussion thread goes, the 416 gets my vote. It's a great all-around rilfe. I'm running it (CQB configuration) on my secondary and Ghost Mode characters.

[TemporalSoldier]

As a follow-up to my previous observations, I tested the 416 against the same rescue chopper at Agua Verde Charlie. I'm running the 416 in CQB, so it has the short barrel. Even with the damage reduction due to the short barrel, the 416 took out the chopper in 40 rounds. The Relentless LVOA-C still took 60 rounds.

I performed the tests with my Ghost Mode character (level 13), so I couldn't compare at the time with the Bad News.

[Virtual-Chris]

Thanks. I think I’m still a bit confused. I need to double check, but I think I’ve read reports that the new LVOA-C is more similar to the Bad News... https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/1934621-Ghost-Recon-Wildlands-Putting-LVOA-C-to-the-test

And some say it’s more like the Division (above).

But the Predator and vehicles are not exactly ideal testing targets IMHO.

At any rate it apperas the HK416 is probably as good as it gets for CQB.

[regulator125]

Dark Dally posted a YT video comparing the twi in terms of recoil, range and accuracy, and power.

[Virtual-Chris]

Dark Dally posted a YT video comparing the twi in terms of recoil, range and accuracy, and power.

Thanks I’m travelling so will have to wait to check that out but looking forward to it. What was his conclusion?

Vehicle testing in general seems fairly indicative, at least as long as you stay within a category (AR vs AR). Comparing ARs with snipers or with shotguns etc. is a different story.
Anyway, the person who helped me make the sheet with damage values for almost all weapons got the customizable one, so i can confirm that the vehicle testing was true: It has the same damage as the division (so confirming the damage values i gave you over there). It does share the low drop-rate with the bad news though. Anyway, yeah, LVOA-C over 416 has a bit less vertical and a lot less horizontal recoil, better drop rate (standard vs standard, long barrel is roughly on par), at the cost of ~30% damage.

Thanks. So if using these rifles in CQB with controlled bursts or semi-auto, I’m guessing the advantage goes to the 416. If you often spray and pray (where recoil plays a bigger role) or engage further out, then the advantage goes to the LVOA-C... is that how you see it?

[Virtual-Chris]

Dark Dally posted a YT video comparing the twi in terms of recoil, range and accuracy, and power.

Vehicle testing in general seems fairly indicative, at least as long as you stay within a category (AR vs AR). Comparing ARs with snipers or with shotguns etc. is a different story.
Anyway, the person who helped me make the sheet with damage values for almost all weapons got the customizable one, so i can confirm that the vehicle testing was true: It has the same damage as the division (so confirming the damage values i gave you over there). It does share the low drop-rate with the bad news though. Anyway, yeah, LVOA-C over 416 has a bit less vertical and a lot less horizontal recoil, better drop rate (standard vs standard, long barrel is roughly on par), at the cost of ~30% damage.

When doing semi-auto, the 416 wins hands down. General CQB and stuff is debatable, the LVOA-C has higher sensitivity, so you may have an easier time with it. If you full-auto enemies, both have more than enough damage to take them out no problem.
I'd say spraying enemies down at medium ranges is where it shines compared to the 416, but not by that much. Since you already have that one (i think at least?), i don't think it's worth it at all. Stick with your 416.

Interesting. Thanks for your thoughts and all the work you and your mates have done testing. That’s what I’m thinking... just stick with the HK416. Besides, if the HK is good enough for DEVGRU it’s good enough for me

[TheHand]

Well to all you 416 fans. I stressed it hard to see if it can out perform the LVOA-C and other AR's for that matter.. Due to the more variations of parts it took a bit to get it tuned in but. After I did reach that sweet spot. it was ten games in a row of just wreckage... cheers, Hand

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