Ubi.. Why so long on the CONQ NERF! | Forums

[AjLavJu]

It's not a question of damage values of an individual successful attack, it's a matter of how a particular maneuver aligns within the reestablished rules set out for CC like this.
If these heroes miss their bashes, they eat damage or GB:
Warden
Lawbringer
Centurion
Valkyrie
Gladiator
Shaman
Shugoki
Raider
Nobushi
Shinobi
Highlander
Raider

See? The entire roster that had CC each have to deal with a punish in the event of a whiff. Conqueror is the only two that had no punish on a whiffed hit.
So stop using the "but it's only 13 damage!" Because 5 hits is all it takes to pull a great deal of the roster down to half health or more. Five. Not a difficult task when you have an incredibly safe move that you know will be largely unpunished, even by characters who have dodge attacks.

not sure u troll as well but, if I dodge conq SB I get GB. He can quickly do top light after SB to prevent from GB, but so as Cent, Valk, Nobushi,(and might couple of other I dont know about) do same thing.

[Specialkha]

First, you need to dodge it. The conq can delay the input long enough to make you dodge, then GB you instead of SB. Then if you dodge, you can maybe GB him or even hit him with a light attack or even you tried your dodge side attack, BUT depending of your latency, the conq can CGB or even parry you. SB lacks a recovery long enough to get punish reliably.

[UbiInsulin]

Locked as the discussion was becoming a circular flame war.