Ubi.. Why so long on the CONQ NERF! | Forums

[ArchDukeInstinct]

Why should the conq have offensive tools while he has so many defensive ones? If shield bash is nerfed, he will fall in the A tier where all the BALANCED hero are? Is this bad?

Anti-Conq thinks Conqueror should have 0 offensive options and thus automatically lose to people who play defensively. Big shocker.

[Specialkha]

He has a strong defense. Why should he have a strong offense as well? So he should have no weakness?

Ofc, we can also talk about the other S tier duel Hero which should be nerf as well.

[AjLavJu]

amazing, how ppl complain about Conq is strong while Warden is completely OK.

- as Conq after SB got one light attack
- as Warden after SB got two light attack, or Heavy, or GB or he can cancel it even during charge and after animation.....

everything Conq is doing warden do it at least twice as better and much more effective so please when nerfing Conq please nerf Warden first, how about Valks they can do SB better than Conq

[Specialkha]

amazing, how ppl complain about Conq is strong while Warden is completely OK.

- as Conq after SB got one light attack
- as Warden after SB got two light attack, or Heavy, or GB or he can cancel it even during charge and after animation.....

everything Conq is doing warden do it at least twice as better and much more effective so please when nerfing Conq please nerf Warden first, how about Valks they can do SB better than Conq

Warden should get a nerf as well as being a S tier hero, but why are you comparing only one part of their kit? You need to take their whole kit in the comparison. Based on how you compare stuff, we could ask to nerf the full block of conq since warden can't full block.

[AjLavJu]

Warden should get a nerf as well as being a S tier hero, but why are you comparing only one part of their kit? You need to take their whole kit in the comparison. Based on how you compare stuff, we could ask to nerf the full block of conq since warden can't full block.

Well yes, He got full stance In dominion it can have good use as ppl trowing random **** out usually but it is not that usable in Duels as you might think.You can bate one or two times your opponent then u get GBreaked...it is quite slow not as fast at Warlord, on faster explosive character is pretty useless(warden for example), it is effective on spammers like orochy, aramusha but still u have to do smart. Overall Warden have much better kit. Top counter, lighting fast hits all coming from different angles, ofcourse SB, Very strong heavy hits and max Punishes. Conq get your HP slowly down, warden can melt u down in seconds. Strongest Move Conq got is his Zone with Superior block ability and this is actually very strong. Except that Warden can do everything else faster and stronger plus he got fastest Reflex Guard in the game.

when facing good Conq I actually dont have problem at all (part of is I`m used to play with conq) I loose only when I miss ShliedBashes. When I face good warden I get roasted there are so many things you have to watch for and all of them do so much dmg.

[Specialkha]

SO what is your point? That warden should be nerf? We can all agree with that, but so does conq.

[Thorstein31]

What is left of the conqueror if the shoulder bash is nerfed?! This nerf this nerf that has already ruined to much heroes.

[AjLavJu]

SO what is your point? That warden should be nerf? We can all agree with that, but so does conq.

My point is that simple Nerf ShieldBash is not answer. I feel same about Warden, should focus more on sword play instead on Shieldbash mechanic. If so I suggest Warden SB would be like a very fast push-off poke with stun effect move but no hit guaranteed just to maintain distance (he still wield 2H sword) and confuse opponent, similar to what gladiator have but faster. For Conq, well that`s different story there must be some other mechanic just like SB+Light. He got most unique weapon in the game and still there is poor usage of it. I would say they should focus more on charge-up mechanic but in the way you are literally not defenseless during it. Counter hits while charging, like warden have top light counter. unable to block heavy attacks during charge up but still able to counter them, etc....I don`t know there are plenty ways when u start thinking

[Specialkha]

A nerf of shield bash has more probability to happen than what you propose.

[AjLavJu]

A nerf of shield bash has more probability to happen than what you propose.

I`m aware of it, but in that case as conq how you will fight against other heroes? How to nerf it? Make is just tad slower a he be similar like Cents kick,everyone will be dodging it and punishing you, and suddenly you wont have anything how to compete. Everything you can do is SB + L most of the time, do something with it and you have no kit, do you see?