Ubi.. Why so long on the CONQ NERF! | Forums

[Buggy.Blaster]

Ubi please, the community has been asking for this for so long!! Do you listen to us? I just lost a rank match to an idiot who literally spammed bash. Even when i dodged it it still hits me...WTF!! this hero is cancer!! Please ubi!!!!! Please!! He is ruining the rank for me and many others. Just nerf the bash is all we ask man! Its broken! Not a get good situation here..i can deal with all the others strong stuff but the conq just needs a tune down here. Im so fed up with it. I know u don't care because I'm just one customer but I'm not buying marching fire until the conc is fixed. Not meant to be a threat because like I said Im just one stupid customer so its not going to hurt you but thats how strong I feel about the class, I don't understand how he passed testing. Love the game love the new heroes and love most the other reworks.

[Sweaty_Sock]

I'm waiting for one as well so I can play my (pre-rework) rep 17 conq again without feeling dirty

[Roseguard_Cpt]

Ubi has a fair bit of hype riding on Marching Fire, so the team is probably hard at work making sure that it will be ready for launch so we don't have another Season 2 Cent situation. This is also combined with the fact that they have to figure out a change to Conq that won't destroy the character leads to there being a lot of wait time. I know many people posted suggestions, but just remember, Centurion was seemingly balanced on paper. Just think how players would react if Cent lost the cutscene, Warden lost SB, Shugo and Warlord lost headbutt, Valk lost her sweep, etc, etc.

[Vrbas1]

I disagree. Take this away and he's a bricked hero, save maybe his safe zone attack/cancel. I really think they should have reworked him from the ground up and not just tweaked a few moves here and there. He's a pretty one-dimensional character as he stands right now, and the only reliable way to even open people up for damage output is his bash-light.

[Arekonator]

The speed, tracking and damage payoff of the shieldbash, even the delay window is "fine".
What is not fine, is that for some characters, its pretty much impossible to punish. Yeah, technically you can get guard break on correct prediction, but you have to nail it with 100ms precision, and good luck doing that with 500ms variable timing. It makes some of his matchups ridiculously one-sided.
What ubi needs to do is to normalize punishes, either by tweaking the recovery or any other means. Hell, let him CGB even, just allow me get at least light in, if i make the correct read.

[Baturai]

Conq and Berserker neeed A huge nerf.
Aswell as kenseis Zone.

[Tyrjo]

I disagree. Take this away and he's a bricked hero, save maybe his safe zone attack/cancel. I really think they should have reworked him from the ground up and not just tweaked a few moves here and there. He's a pretty one-dimensional character as he stands right now, and the only reliable way to even open people up for damage output is his bash-light.

Nobody is talking about taking away the move. It needs recovery on miss.

[DefiledDragon]

Nobody is talking about taking away the move. It needs recovery on miss.

^ This. This is all they need to do.

[ArchDukeInstinct]

Nobody is talking about taking away the move. It needs recovery on miss.

That's virtually the same thing because nobody is going to go for shield bashes from neutral when all you can get is 13 damage and 10 stamina damage, but it's a near certainty that you get GB'd and get hit with a heavy instead. Then you're stuck with Lawbringer lights that do less damage because everything else that was offense related from the rework was a disaster.

[Nose1234F]

I don't even know what else Conqueror has aside from the Bash, (and the full block stance). I don't find it that broken most times really, Highlander's 50/50 is a lot worse IMO, because if you are OOS is death.