So people are still OK w/ Kensei? | Forums

[Siegfried-Z]

Perhaps. His point remains valid though. It is still a double dodge, and Kensei's moves do have a "heat-seeking" quality to them compared to others.

Case in point. I was playing Gladiator yesterday and I was positioned at about Kensei's maximum reach from a top heavy/top light (as we all know, that's a good bit of distance because Kensei has superb range). I anticipated a side heavy/light so I backrolled. Just as I was backrolling, at this point putting nearly double the distance between us, he initiated a side heavy or light (can't recall), and proceeded to vacuum suck-ski across the wide berth of ground that had separated us, and smacked me out of my backroll; now he's in my face.

This isn't Warden's forward rush heavy attack, one DESIGNED to catch a retreat. Or zerks leaping heavy/light. Or Warlord's leaping heavy/headbutt. No, this is a SIDE attack that gravity-wells you from a huge distance.

I'm sorry, this is not OK. And if you think it is, you're part of the reason so many are frustrated with his kit and fight dynamics because you are so quick to stand by him as a "perfect" character - probably because you enjoy wrecking face with his exploitable mechanics.

Shinobi double dodge is just an animation. . If he isnt kicking the distance he goes is not that large. .

What you just say explain why you've got it.
If you start a backroll Before the guy land his attack. . It very often tracks you against long range opponent.

It happen to me yesterday agaisnt a Raider and i just eat a top heavy because of that (i was ezcaping his trap).

But two advices for you :
1/ the fact you just backroll before the Kensei does anything show that you suffer a lack of skills at fighting, at least against Kensei.
2/ so thinking in a différent way than you means beeing someone who breaks the game? Interesting pov. . You know what really break the game ?
400ms moove as Roch lights
Abused 4v4 mooves as stampede charge, Raider zone, demon embrace, cent stab etc
Highlander 50/50
Conq and warden kit ..
Revenge buff
Holes everywhere on maps
Feats that allow to kill a whole team without even fighting as catapult, spear storm and LB bombs. .

These things are annoying..not kensei kit which just require a bit of skills and brain To handle with.

Good that feats are going to be nerf and that perks gonna replace these stupids gear stats which allow revenge build.

[Vrbas1]

1/ the fact you just backroll before the Kensei does anything show that you suffer a lack of skills at fighting, at least against Kensei.

Well I did fail to mention this was in 4v4 and I was about to get grouped so also why I backrolled. I don't consider myself a pro but I by no means lack fighting skills having played since beta; I feel I have a pretty good grasp of the game.

[Siegfried-Z]

Well I did fail to mention this was in 4v4 and I was about to get grouped so also why I backrolled. I don't consider myself a pro but I by no means lack fighting skills having played since beta; I feel I have a pretty good grasp of the game.

Ok then i understand.
I am there since the begenning too.. and i agree Kensei is strong .
But in my opinion and by logic in my pov he isnt op.
So i want to ask you, that's a real question no sarcasm there.. as a "veteran" in the game too let's say that do you really have more problem against Kensei than against Conq and Warden?? I have more trouble with those two on my side.

I main kensei of course so it is by definition a bad match up for me To fight them with Kensei as he already has a low winrate agaisnt them and even before rework.

If you main Glad (which is one of my top 4 char) i understand you can have troubles against Kensei more than against conq etc.

But if you do, how are you not complaining about Roch more than Kensei ?^^
I mean kensei at least has to mix up.. while Roch can just spam light To death others assassins .. even agaisnt zerk if smart ..
Ive tried with my best friend a week ago ..
He pick up his main and he is a rep60 zerk .. i pick up my Roch rep3 only and i've won 3 To 1 ...

[Vrbas1]

Ok then i understand.
I am there since the begenning too.. and i agree Kensei is strong .
But in my opinion and by logic in my pov he isnt op.
So i want to ask you, that's a real question no sarcasm there.. as a "veteran" in the game too let's say that do you really have more problem against Kensei than against Conq and Warden?? I have more trouble with those two on my side.

I main kensei of course so it is by definition a bad match up for me To fight them with Kensei as he already has a low winrate agaisnt them and even before rework.

If you main Glad (which is one of my top 4 char) i understand you can have troubles against Kensei more than against conq etc.

But if you do, how are you not complaining about Roch more than Kensei ?^^
I mean kensei at least has to mix up.. while Roch can just spam light To death others assassins .. even agaisnt zerk if smart ..
Ive tried with my best friend a week ago ..
He pick up his main and he is a rep60 zerk .. i pick up my Roch rep3 only and i've won 3 To 1 ...

I hate rochi. His light attacks are akin to mushus wheel of death, stun lock. He's a nightmare for reflex guard heroes. I think rochi is incredibly strong, but at least I can land hits on him that make logical sense. Kensei is more frustrating in my opinion because his attacks are safer and mitigate damage altogether sometimes.

[Nose1234F]

I think Kensei is where all heroes should be at. No hero should be stronger or weaker. The weakest acceptable should be Nobushi. Everything above Ken should be nerfed (Highlander, Shaman), anything below buffed (Aramusha, Nobushi, Raider, Lawbro)