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[Erhanninja]

Nobushi is the worst hero in this game period.

Even Shugoki or Warlord have something going for them. Shugoki HA lets him take a free hit and headbutt puts the enemy instantly OOS. This is very big. Also charged heavy UB makes massive damage. I’m not even talking about cheesy hug. Earlier played a Dom against a Shugoki all he does timings it perfectly with his teammate and just hug no need to fight. Instant death. I land a heavy see it coming nope. GB on revenge nope. This the state of the game.

WL has HA on heavies. Spam headbutt super safe. Running charge with massive tracking. Guaranteed ledge with one GB if nearby.

These are non reworked heroes. She is worst among these as well. If you are playing Nobushi you are playing purely on skill because she has no kit because everybody else simply superior.

It’s not about not using her to full potential. If she is going OOS with 2-3 heavy feint or 2 HS then how I’m gonna use her to fully potential? Look at Zerk he can do 9-10 heavy feint into light into UB without going OOS.

All her attacks are free parry. Her top is useless. Kick doesn’t even take stamina away but free GB. Vipers retreat is guaranteed parry if you try to use it within a combo. I sometimes caught people with side winder by surprise they took that away too. It has no properties at all.

She has 600ms lights attacks. While other heroes have 500ms heavy and 400ms lights. It’s no brainer. I don’t even get my turn to attack heroes like Orochi.

She is supposed to long range if not longest but Raider Kensei LB has more range and arc than her. Kensei attacks catches me even if I’m behind him or close to his side after reworks. My attacks miss even if the guy blinks. Probably worse tracking in the game.

There is still so much to talk. But every single Nobushi player is crying for buff. And what do they do? Nerf her over and over. I watch all famous streamers. They even made videos how Nobushi is weak. They nerf bleed heroes at least PK has stack bleed. I don’t see any nerf on Shaman.

They destroyed the game by introducing UB HA ballerina attacks and Jump attacks out of proportion. No balance in the game. Revenge is a joke. Feats are unbalanced. Still frame drops on customisation screen after months.

I only played Warden after rework few rounds. I destroy people. Get more kills than my main.

Ps. I’m currently playing against 4 Aramushas. We are being light spammed to death.

[dinosaurlicker]

Nobushi is the worst hero in this game period.

Even Shugoki or Warlord have something going for them. Shugoki HA lets him take a free hit and headbutt puts the enemy instantly OOS. This is very big. Also charged heavy UB makes massive damage. I’m not even talking about cheesy hug. Earlier played a Dom against a Shugoki all he does timings it perfectly with his teammate and just hug no need to fight. Instant death. I land a heavy see it coming nope. GB on revenge nope. This the state of the game.

WL has HA on heavies. Spam headbutt super safe. Running charge with massive tracking. Guaranteed ledge with one GB if nearby.

These are non reworked heroes. She is worst among these as well. If you are playing Nobushi you are playing purely on skill because she has no kit because everybody else simply superior.

It’s not about not using her to full potential. If she is going OOS with 2-3 heavy feint or 2 HS then how I’m gonna use her to fully potential? Look at Zerk he can do 9-10 heavy feint into light into UB without going OOS.

All her attacks are free parry. Her top is useless. Kick doesn’t even take stamina away but free GB. Vipers retreat is guaranteed parry if you try to use it within a combo. I sometimes caught people with side winder by surprise they took that away too. It has no properties at all.

She has 600ms lights attacks. While other heroes have 500ms heavy and 400ms lights. It’s no brainer. I don’t even get my turn to attack heroes like Orochi.

She is supposed to long range if not longest but Raider Kensei LB has more range and arc than her. Kensei attacks catches me even if I’m behind him or close to his side after reworks. My attacks miss even if the guy blinks. Probably worse tracking in the game.

There is still so much to talk. But every single Nobushi player is crying for buff. And what do they do? Nerf her over and over. I watch all famous streamers. They even made videos how Nobushi is weak. They nerf bleed heroes at least PK has stack bleed. I don’t see any nerf on Shaman.

They destroyed the game by introducing UB HA ballerina attacks and Jump attacks out of proportion. No balance in the game. Revenge is a joke. Feats are unbalanced. Still frame drops on customisation screen after months.

I only played Warden after rework few rounds. I destroy people. Get more kills than my main.

Ps. I’m currently playing against 4 Aramushas. We are being light spammed to death.

Yea. Shugoki has super armor. But the moment you take it off you do 25% more damage looool. This means a nobushi can do around 70 damage to him with one heavy along with bleed buff. DE only works on walls, and if you ever get GBed by a Shugoki it’s your fault. And his headbutt only does 50% stamina damage, not instant OOS.

Aramusha light spam only works on noobs. So I’m sorry, but you’re a noob.

Nobushi has a strong unblockable. Quick with ways to confirm it, and it gives her a damage buff for a few seconds afterwards. Not to mention the fact that hidden stance is one of the strongest defensive moves in the game. In the current meta she’s weak, I’ll agree with thay. But she’s closer to the middle of the pack than you think. And by no stretch is she ever the worst hero in the game.

IMO every hero should be balanced to Nobushi’s lvl, but then again, who am I to say what would be balanced? The devs are gods and know exactly what they’re doing (loool)

[voiddp]

Lol i can just say that some people will be surprised when they will fight good nobushi. Its fun when someone underestimates your hero xD

[Elhantas]

Well the long-range prefix on Nobushi is a joke... That one is true. To the point where, even after using Swift recoil, you get YOURSELF out of your OWN attack range.

[voiddp]

Well swift recoil helped me few times to get out of heated situation range.
Because I have dodge on RS button so I randomly press dodge when I block aggressively lol. So I swift recoil like that. And if enemy still continues his combo I can punish his whiff usually.

And Nobushi has enough range to outrange lots of moves, just need to know other heroes movesets to know where you don't need to try that and where you can outrange. Game has random tracking moves everywhere that can negate that.

Buy as a whole, Nobu is less about being ranged, more about counterattacking.

[Zhantay]

Nobu is imo one of the best heroes against warden. She can get out of the charged/uncharged 50/50 bash. Ofc warden is broken and can just cancel it and dashing attack you across the map, but that’s different

With Warden it's literally a guessing mini game, No skill just pure guessing. He can shoulder bash way more times than I can use Hidden Stance and even if I use it correctly what is my reward? 1 light. But if I guess wrong I'm eating 40 damage heavy which is 1/3 of my health bar and 1/3 of my stamina is loss. On Paper Nobushi can beat Warden but she has to play perfectly while Warden just have to not do the same move twice. And they also fixed the "bug" where he loses more stamina when he misses his Shoulder Bash so thanks Ubisoft.

Trust me I've been trying to to win a Tournament as Nobushi because I missed the cute little chipmunks ornament but I have to go through waves upon waves of Wardens who just use the safest moves, Valiant Breakthrough, dash in any direction into a Shoulder Bash, and his zone. All of these moves are fast and lead into his unblockable and it stresses me the **** out how I have to play like a god while this guy can mash his face all over the controller and not get punished.

[voiddp]

What guessing?
You just HS on bash always. And dodge out of HS if he delays bash.

Punish with light? Why? When you can GB + heavy.
Or 2x lights with bleed out of HS
Or heavy + kick + light bleed out of HS

[dinosaurlicker]

What guessing?
You just HS on bash always. And dodge out of HS if he delays bash.

Punish with light? Why? When you can GB + heavy.
Or 2x lights with bleed out of HS
Or heavy + kick + light bleed out of HS

What he said ^

But ye, Nobushi is weak in the meta

[UbiInsulin]

I'm monitoring this thread, thanks everyone for weighing in. If you have specific changes in mind, please feel free to mention them!

[Vrbas1]

I imagine it being difficult to balance so many heros at this point. The roster has become so large I'm not surprised some have fallen to the wayside. It's kinda one of those "odds" things given the number of heros at this point; it's just a matter of which ones.