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    YodaMan 3D's Avatar Senior Member
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    Survial annoyances.

    So not sure what is more annoying in Survival this weekend.

    1. Shotgun rushers sniping me in a blizzard, hitting me with a 100% Accurancy in a blizzard with a shotgun and doing more damage. Meanwhile I can't see or hit them with a sniper rifle.

    2. 24 players all the time now and everyone one is in teams of 4, which is making it difficult to solo Survival.

    3. After running 3/4 of the way around the DZ just so I could get enough loot. Finally got into the DZ and was running an extract point when a player calls it in. Not the type to dump a hunter on an unsuspecting player. Still undergeared, I stop to help. There was 8 players there. Between 9 of us, we cleaned out the Hunters quick. I picked one of them up and he thanked me, cause I helped him and his friends. who just cleared every LM in the DZ and until he went down they had a perfect run, but they was out of medkits. Well 4 them extracted. The other 4 decides that they are going to help me extract. I respond that I am fine, that I just needed loot and extract. They informed me that they cleared the whole DZ. Not quite believing, I start looking for myself. 4 of them follow protecting me. Which was taken the fun out of it. Went to I tried to cut through an different extract point and they called it in for me. Well, good news I was doing well up till they helped me. I died to a Hunter by getting help in the DZ.

    4. Wasn't happy about the NPCs shooting through walls. That seems to be getting worse.

    5. Not happy about another player agros an NPC and if they run away then the NPCs are agrowed on any player that comes close. All of the NPCs.

    6 Up until now I have been able to start a game 6 minutes or under, but now I have waited for 15 minutes or longer this weekend.

    7. Last but not least, the PvP is a absolute ghost town. 12 times the players in PvE for the same amount of the wait. If they did something to the servers, please undo it so I can enjoy the game.
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    My experience of late
    Playing Pve , player numbers anywhere from 5 - 24
    Lag remains , gotta love teleporting Npcs , seeing a cloud of green pixals (hitting self heal at low healh ) as you're on the ground reviving .
    Seagull players still around
    But my biggest annoyance which I've never understood since the beginning , is Why are there Signature Skill Talents on weapons and gear items
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    Originally Posted by XahRith16 Go to original post
    My experience of late
    Playing Pve , player numbers anywhere from 5 - 24
    Lag remains , gotta love teleporting Npcs , seeing a cloud of green pixals (hitting self heal at low healh ) as you're on the ground reviving .
    Seagull players still around
    But my biggest annoyance which I've never understood since the beginning , is Why are there Signature Skill Talents on weapons and gear items
    Last night I had a teammate that was being a Seagull. Never fired a shot and twice clearing landmarks, I saw purple drop and he would rush in and get it. Cleared a few landmarks in the DZ and he swooped in to grab the Survival Caches. I got tired of it and ran to the extraction and call it. Soon as the Hunters appear, he runs right up to and got knocked out. All that hard earned loot and just drops right out in the middle and then I had to deal with his Hunter and mine, both focused on me.
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    In my view, the most annoying points are:
    1. The long waiting time in queue, especially in PVP.
    2. The empty servers in PVP
    3. PVE players stirring up the NPCs and run away, althought they have noticed that another player or a team mate needs help.
    4. Unexperienced players in the team who attack a LM or go to the extraction far too early whithout having the adequate equippment. I mean, everybody can make a mistake. No problem, but not the same mistake three times in a row.
    5. Selfish players grapping, for exapmple, all Survival Caches and do not even help with the NPCs
    6. The still unfixed bugs, like NPCs appearing suddenly in front of you or that you can get trapped between a paper box and garden chair.
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    Originally Posted by rosch15 Go to original post
    In my view, the most annoying points are:
    1. The long waiting time in queue, especially in PVP.
    2. The empty servers in PVP
    3. PVE players stirring up the NPCs and run away, althought they have noticed that another player or a team mate needs help.
    4. Unexperienced players in the team who attack a LM or go to the extraction far too early whithout having the adequate equippment. I mean, everybody can make a mistake. No problem, but not the same mistake three times in a row.
    5. Selfish players grapping, for exapmple, all Survival Caches and do not even help with the NPCs
    6. The still unfixed bugs, like NPCs appearing suddenly in front of you or that you can get trapped between a paper box and garden chair.
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    Valid points.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    So not sure what is more annoying in Survival this weekend.

    1. Shotgun rushers sniping me in a blizzard, hitting me with a 100% Accurancy in a blizzard with a shotgun and doing more damage. Meanwhile I can't see or hit them with a sniper rifle.

    2. 24 players all the time now and everyone one is in teams of 4, which is making it difficult to solo Survival.

    3. After running 3/4 of the way around the DZ just so I could get enough loot. Finally got into the DZ and was running an extract point when a player calls it in. Not the type to dump a hunter on an unsuspecting player. Still undergeared, I stop to help. There was 8 players there. Between 9 of us, we cleaned out the Hunters quick. I picked one of them up and he thanked me, cause I helped him and his friends. who just cleared every LM in the DZ and until he went down they had a perfect run, but they was out of medkits. Well 4 them extracted. The other 4 decides that they are going to help me extract. I respond that I am fine, that I just needed loot and extract. They informed me that they cleared the whole DZ. Not quite believing, I start looking for myself. 4 of them follow protecting me. Which was taken the fun out of it. Went to I tried to cut through an different extract point and they called it in for me. Well, good news I was doing well up till they helped me. I died to a Hunter by getting help in the DZ.

    4. Wasn't happy about the NPCs shooting through walls. That seems to be getting worse.

    5. Not happy about another player agros an NPC and if they run away then the NPCs are agrowed on any player that comes close. All of the NPCs.

    6 Up until now I have been able to start a game 6 minutes or under, but now I have waited for 15 minutes or longer this weekend.

    7. Last but not least, the PvP is a absolute ghost town. 12 times the players in PvE for the same amount of the wait. If they did something to the servers, please undo it so I can enjoy the game.
    It is NOT just survival , underground etc is the same the npc /lmb seem to have new life new powers, I first noticed it with the legendary missions , but today in underground doing the 3 phase for the weekly , i was killed time after time , and i normally never get killed in underground ?.. seekers stop at feet of enemy, turrets do not fire, enemy shooting through the doors also got killed with a baseball bat and the door was closed ???.. even doing hvt weekly targets are the same .. Something going on in this game, ninja buffs to enemy ???? Every time they do some update the game goes crazzzzzy...
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    So not sure what is more annoying in Survival this weekend.

    1. Shotgun rushers sniping me in a blizzard, hitting me with a 100% Accurancy in a blizzard with a shotgun and doing more damage. Meanwhile I can't see or hit them with a sniper rifle.

    2. 24 players all the time now and everyone one is in teams of 4, which is making it difficult to solo Survival.

    3. After running 3/4 of the way around the DZ just so I could get enough loot. Finally got into the DZ and was running an extract point when a player calls it in. Not the type to dump a hunter on an unsuspecting player. Still undergeared, I stop to help. There was 8 players there. Between 9 of us, we cleaned out the Hunters quick. I picked one of them up and he thanked me, cause I helped him and his friends. who just cleared every LM in the DZ and until he went down they had a perfect run, but they was out of medkits. Well 4 them extracted. The other 4 decides that they are going to help me extract. I respond that I am fine, that I just needed loot and extract. They informed me that they cleared the whole DZ. Not quite believing, I start looking for myself. 4 of them follow protecting me. Which was taken the fun out of it. Went to I tried to cut through an different extract point and they called it in for me. Well, good news I was doing well up till they helped me. I died to a Hunter by getting help in the DZ.

    4. Wasn't happy about the NPCs shooting through walls. That seems to be getting worse.

    5. Not happy about another player agros an NPC and if they run away then the NPCs are agrowed on any player that comes close. All of the NPCs.

    6 Up until now I have been able to start a game 6 minutes or under, but now I have waited for 15 minutes or longer this weekend.

    7. Last but not least, the PvP is a absolute ghost town. 12 times the players in PvE for the same amount of the wait. If they did something to the servers, please undo it so I can enjoy the game.
    2 Are you saying survival is more competitive now?

    3, 5 - Its always been like that to some degree. Typical human behaviour. At least in some players. Ive always had that sort of behaviour in the forefront of my mind so that whatever street I run down, I expect that sort of crap to be there. A pulse is useful for 5 in the LZ part.

    1 Perfect AI code.... developer who did the best job they could but they should have done the most correct one. Giving some margin of error for AI the lower their xp level would have given some realism in their behavoiur! ^^

    4. Lag?
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    8. I forgot to mention, while playing Survival. I noticed that when my team was taking down one of the LM in the DZ. I took the high ground while my teammates took the low ground. I could see the whole battle from my position. My teammates was on the opposite side, while the NPCs was in the middle and then I. I drew agro and all the NPCs focused on me, all facing me. I could move without them shooting me doing great amounts of pain. Meanwhile, my teammates was taking damage at the same time as I. Why? No one was looking their way. No one was shooting their way. To me any NPCs shooting at me, couldn't be shooting at them and visa versa. Yet we all took damage regardless of where we were.
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    A few annoyances for me

    1) The lack of random loot spawns. Makes it very easy to gear up and makes each run fairly predictable.
    2) Survival Rewards. These days people play survival for the pure Division experience or commendations. Not saying it needs its own loot pool, but it needs something like full sets of cosmetic rewards or maybe guaranteed key fragments in every survival cache.
    3) The DZ in general is less deadly environment than the LZ.
    4) The Lag can get bad

    Survival was so close to being a masterpiece.
    If I remember 1 good thing about the Division, it'd be Survival.
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    Originally Posted by YodaMan 3D Go to original post
    8. I forgot to mention, while playing Survival. I noticed that when my team was taking down one of the LM in the DZ. I took the high ground while my teammates took the low ground. I could see the whole battle from my position. My teammates was on the opposite side, while the NPCs was in the middle and then I. I drew agro and all the NPCs focused on me, all facing me. I could move without them shooting me doing great amounts of pain. Meanwhile, my teammates was taking damage at the same time as I. Why? No one was looking their way. No one was shooting their way. To me any NPCs shooting at me, couldn't be shooting at them and visa versa. Yet we all took damage regardless of where we were.
    Their ****ty coding? Well okay..... Im not being critical but while the AI does a decent job of putting up a challenge its not particular great at simulating a realistic force attack. Though it could just be more server side lag. The npcs were shooting at your team but you just werent seeing it!
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