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[Casey988]

While concept is interesting, and funny enough i bought my new pc only for this game, only not to buy it once i seen beta.... i got second chance on 4 Honor again, via free to play.
However, first few hours of game were really fun, and here i thought this game is changed, better, simpler and matchmaker is really good.
Told few friends about the game, played with them few games... and it all went fine. I even started to read guides and so on... but second day , matchmaker forced us aginst players who had so many tricks, spamimg same moves, fireswords, posion shananigans i dont even know where to start describing what was there.
Their equipment was much higher lvl, and while our was around 10-15, they had 60.
We got stomped in few games in row, with quiting ever so often only to get new players against us. Only to see same resault.
I will not waste my time on a game that cant give me a chance to play with my equal lvl of players, insted of beeing stomped by some bloodthirsti geeks who enjoy this matchup for fun.

I mean, in one game opponent team got in our base and killed us on spwan point. WTF lol

[Ozmoses_Nil]

Lol... Maybe you need new / better friends. I've had better luck with randoms

[CRIMS0NM0NKEY]

Was it a peacekeeper in your spawn with lastlaugh feat that killed your team and won the game? If so that was me... Sorry.

[Soldier_of_Dawn]

Sounds like the recent matchmaking issue. Hopefully, it will get sorted out.

[Gemoroda]

Read low lvl gear stats.

[OoKaMi_79]

Hi Casey....

I would suggest you to stay for a while in PvE instead of jumping into PvP. Play against the bots for a while with your friends, I’m sure it will be fun and you will be able to level up and grind some equipment of higher level.

Reading tutorials and following a YouTuber will improve your game with practice, and then you can return to PvP.

It is normal from a game that has started one year ago that the level between players is different (but yes, matchmaking is not so fair and good unfortunately)

Regards

[Eisenwolf.]

1. The game is all about learning how to handle certain situations (like: someone is spamming the same move at you; what can you do to punish that).
2. Choose any fighting game that comes to your mind ... the first few month will be hard - that's normal.
3. The Matchmaking System does a regression on your win/loss ratio and that takes several matches to get stable. It's normal to throw you (sometimes) against better players if you have a good win/loss ratio.
4. Playing against better players is a chance to get better at the game. Fighting against equal or lower skilled players won't help you at all to get better.

5. If it is still a problem for you or your friends ... than fighting games might be in general not your thing ... it's that simple.

Best wishes for you and your friends.

PS: Gear System will change with start of Marching Fire.

[Goat_of_Vermund]

I think that if it's mainly a gear issue, you should level up your mains against bots, they are also good for beginner practice. If it's rather a skill issue, either play pve 4v4, or practice team fights in custom matches against each other. Dominion is mostly about how fast a team of x players can kill a single target, or how well they fare against an other team, but even an unskilled fighter is very useful if he/she sticks to objectives (staying alive in your own zones, capturing theirs, killing minions, kiting). Not all match is a pleasent experience, but every opposing team will have some flaw: gankers will leave their objectives unprotected, objective teams' members are sometimes left alone, full heavy team is slow, full assassin team doesn't have a good way to kill minions etc.

[Casey988]

Ah, i might have raged a bit much.. sry guys!
I went to advanced tutorial, and watched some tips for warden. Now sometimes i can even parry, and i didnt know what else could have been done in fights. However i would point out that a tutorial is just horrible to play. It really shows you nothing. All things in advanced tutorial i passed somehow, only to go to the youtube and search for a moves to get them right... then go to bot fight and try them there. So tutorial is horrible, but it gives solid amount of steel.

Thanks for advice everyone i do appriciate.

Main problem was beside the gear, that they had this fireattack moves, and now i know how to pull them as well. So again, all good here. But sometimes i get in my games players with prestigue of 0, that use deflect all the time. Could this be smurf accounts made for stomping? I dunno how someone gets defflect so easily that fast.

Also when i get paired with high lvl of prestigue or equipment i simply leave the game...i dont like stomp, dont wanna play that kind of match... but still i do get somewhat ok matchups 3 out of 5 games. So that is good enough.

I do have question on a few things. If i keep my equipment on low lvl, will my matchmaking be based on that, or my prestigue lvl?
I played against centurion, and he litteraly stomped me like a bug. I got kicked 24/7, till he killed me. Is centurion that much of a power house? I kinda liked his combos.

I have saved up 15k steel, and wonder now should i buy him. I was thinking to learn 2 characters simultaneously. Warden while good, interesting, hard to master gets boring of only playing him. So is centurion solid pick? I dont think i will farm game to buy ever single characters in game. So 2 for me are good enough.

Also i downloaded game for free this weekend. And my choice where knights. So now when i wanna buy other knights it says 8000steel to recruit, but other factions it says unlock. Do i (if i pay 8000steel) get to play other characters or i have to unlock them and buy a game to get them?

Also what is warmap, what does it do, what does it mean when i put the flag down? It kinda stayed untold...

[AzureSky.]

60 gear score is not enough to get a noticeable chance of winning, if it was 110 to 0 yeah, 180 is very noticeable (+17% damage and increased stamina regen + lower stamina cost)