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    Stats dropping when entering pvp

    Every time I enter skirmish my main stats firearms stamina and electronics go. I don't PvP a lot so I don't know if this is normal or not, just messes with me as it makes me lose all talents on my weapons
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    Normalization.

    It brings everything up / down to 1272. You can't get 9k anything in Last Stand or Skirmish.
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    You can get 9k fa, stam or elec in both game modes.

    I'm of the unpopular opinion that normalizing stats to 1272 is a good thing as you shouldn't be able to have 9k stam and access to damage talents.
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    Yes , your stats go down in LS and Skirmish. As Merpee said, it is called normalization. On the other hand, it is possible to reach 9k, but the question is, whether it is worth it. For example, my Classy Pred with 9.188 stamina, Normally, all my 6 pieces of gear are rolled on stamina, additionally one stamina mod; the rest of the mods are firearm mods To reach 9 K stamina in LS or Skirmish, I need at least four stamina mods, that means, however, that my firearms stats decrease considerably and all my weapon talents, apart from Predatory, are not active. The best is you try it yourself and decide afterwards, if it is worth the loss of firepower and talents.
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    Originally Posted by rosch15 Go to original post
    For example, my Classy Pred with 9.188 stamina, Normally, all my 6 pieces of gear are rolled on stamina, additionally one stamina mod; the rest of the mods are firearm mods To reach 9 K stamina in LS or Skirmish, I need at least four stamina mods, that means, however, that my firearms stats decrease considerably and all my weapon talents, apart from Predatory, are not active.
    You have Predatory active? I'm pretty sure you don't meet the Electronics requirements for it. Maybe you mean Self-Preserved or Sustained?

    Predatory: Killing a target regenerates 35% health over 20 seconds.
    Firearms: 2874
    Stamina: 4790
    Electronics: 2874
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    Ok thanks now it makes sense. I don't pvp alot so didn't know what was happening, I have this little skill build where I got 10123 electronics and exactly enough firearms and stamina to get the competent talent on both my weapons and everytime as soon as I load in my electronic drops to like 9800 or something and both firearms and stamina drop by 200 which strips my talents. Thanks for the info perhaps thats why I see so many people without talents in pvp...I thought they were also bugged or just lazy
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    No, my Bullfrog with Predatory. I have 3199 firearms, 9960 stamina and 2961 electronices. After the normalization I still have about 9230 stamina. Nevertheless, I don't like the build very much. It is only that a friend said it would make a great difference in Skirmish. Therefore, I tried it with mixed
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    Sorry, forgot the last word: with mixed success
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    Hi Sangersss. I've just tested the build again, since I though: Hey this guy sounds as if he knew what he is talking about.. (It was not a safed gear set and I needed a bit of time). The stats mentioned above are the stats in Terminal and here, Predatory is active. But you are correct: as soon as I enter Skirmish, it is no longer active. I think I will stay with my normal Pred.
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    Originally Posted by rosch15 Go to original post
    Hi Sangersss. I've just tested the build again, since I though: Hey this guy sounds as if he knew what he is talking about.. (It was not a safed gear set and I needed a bit of time). The stats mentioned above are the stats in Terminal and here, Predatory is active. But you are correct: as soon as I enter Skirmish, it is no longer active. I think I will stay with my normal Pred.
    Yeh I thought so. A House that comes with Sustained or Self-Preserved is sort after by Skirmish Predator players. I found one but want another as a secondary. Those are the only two skills worth running with that will unlock when you spec (nearly) everything into Stamina.

    What I do is have a normal Predator build and four extra pieces of Pred that I swap out to turn it into a 9k Skirmish/Last Stand Pred. I save the normal one in my load out and when I go into Skirmish/Last Stand, I simply load that up and then manually swap over the four pieces. That way it doesn't take up a load out slot. I think you can do this with just three extra pieces but I need four because my normal Pred build runs with AR and my 9K one runs with SMG so I have different Gloves.
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