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So I recently started playing For Honor (yeah I know, this might be a reason you won't take my opinion in consideration), but I haven't played "normally" let's say; I played with EVERY HERO EQUALLY to see how every hero works both in duels and in gangfests. Also I've been watching Videos on youtube so I can make an idea on how things are at higher rep different than now, all of the above led me to the conclusion that I'm about to write now (NOTE: I play on PC, KB & Mouse soooooo yeah) (NOTE: this is just my personal opinion but I want everyone to post a comment with their opinions and keep this thread so that someone "important" can read all of this and maybe, MAYBE try and do something with our opinions) Here we go:
I will rank all the heroes from 1 to 5
1 - Weak hero, has a really bad moveset, almost no openers and can be countered very easy -> needs to be upgraded
2 - It's kinda okay I guess, but could use some improvements to it's moveset taking in consideration other heroes that have a ton crap of moves
3 - Balanced
4 - Feels a little bit strong but not that hard to counter if you know how to
5 - Really OP, waaaaay tooo much moves and way to unpredictable -> needs to be nerfed
In my opinion:
1: - Lawbringer (lawbringer is slow, uses a lot of stamina on his moves, and has almost no opener)
- Conqueror (seriously, this dude has like nothing to give out especially in a duel)
2: - Shugoki
- Warlord
3: - Warden (with the new rework warden seems okay for now)
- Raider
- Kensei
- Peacekeeper (personally I sucked with this hero I dunno why, but that's not a reason to say that the hero itself sucks, peacekeepr has quite a few moves and perks)
- Nobushi
- Highlander
- Shinobi (if you know his moveset, shinobi is quite easy to counter, contrary to what everyone here seems to say)
- Aramusha
4: - Berserker (berserker uses very little stamina to feint, combine that with his hyper armor and this dude can hit you like a fckin train, but still, it can be countered)
- Orochi (contrary to the vast majority, I can say that orochi is really NOT that OP, his lights are very very very very fast, but other than that his moves can be predicted)
- Gladiator (has a really big stamina and a wide moveset, combined with a lot of feints, this is a tough one, but again, learn him, and you can counter him)
- Valkyrie (especially after the rework, Valkyrie feels a little bit OP now, with faster light attacks and that leg sweep spam, it's so fcking annoying....)
5: - Centurion (let's face it this guy is fun to play with, but he has WAY to many options, openers, feints and so on, he can do so much, hit you in so many ways, it's way too hard to fight against this dude, even if you know his moveset)
- Shaman (shaman is easy to learn to play, hard to learn to counter; like centurion, she has a crap ton of moves, feints, bleeds, unblockables, feints again, **** sake if you fight one that really knows what he is doing, and you are a category 1 or 2 from this list hero, YOU GONNA HAVE A BAD TIME
Once again, this is just my personal opinion, I wrote this after I watched a hella amount of videos of pros on youtube, after I've played WITH & AGAINST EVERY HERO starting from rep 1 up to rep 30 enemies; and as I said earlier, everyone should post their thoughts on all the heroes in the roster, BUT PLEASE don't speak if you are a rage quitting kid that got beat up by an orochi or a shinobi and you never even tried one of these heroes, not even in training with a bot. So let's post all of our thoughts here and keep this up, hopefully someone will see this and stop the Valkyrie sweep spam. Thanks, and please don't judge me, i'm not a pro, I played, play and will play just for fun....but let's face it you can't have fun when you are a Conqueror facing a Centurion 50 rep + over you
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Conqueror is, in your opinion, and i quote: Weak hero, has a really bad moveset, almost no openers and can be countered very easy -> needs to be upgraded. Damn son, prepare to hear some extremely opposite opinions hahah. Also centurion is 5??? Really? And, as you state it he is fun to play? Really??? "he can do so much, hit you in so many ways", what? We are talking about the centurion, a hero that has one of the worst and most easily dodgeable openers and whose offense is basically completely shut down if you only block, right?
I'm not attacking your opinion, but your ranking seems extremely strange and off to me. And when I say strange and off, I mean it directly contrasts what most so called 'pros' as well as the regulars on the forums consider it to be. But hey, if that's your experience of FH so far, kudos to you!
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I said, i'm not really a pro, this is just what i feel so far, i will keep playing obviously and i wanted to share my experience with everyone and also see your opinion, you could have posted what you think too, like which heroes need to be nerfed and which to be upgraded, that's another reason i made the post so everyone could give their thoughts on the weak/op heroes...
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Conq is one Of the strongest 1vs1 Class Thx to his shield bash. You can dodge and delay the bash or dodge and guardbreak to open People up. Classes that dont have a dodge attack should be a free win for the conq like shugoki, lawbringer and centurion. Centurion is good vs new players and ok in 4vs4 but generelly weak 1vs1. He can be very annoying to play against though. The rest Of the classes i think i agree on pretty much.
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Yeah, probably thatOriginally Posted by HazelrahFirefly Go to original post
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Shugoki:
-faster lights
-a heavy, light string
-hyper armor rework: armor no longer regens but is applied via a move (full block emote which applies armor) this change will also include shugoki no longer taking more damage out of armor.
-Shugoki will be able to use headbutt in neutral by a soft feint heavy (like valk) from the he may do a light or heavy finisher
-oni embrace will have a faster animation by now be a bearhug that finishes in an animation similar to a teched GB, hug damage will be reduced and health loss from a wiff will also be reduced ( as a GB is already gaurunteed for the opponent)
Lawbringer:
-faster side lights
-out of guard pike if blocked will be GB punishable
-pike parry counter and light stun parry counter will be replace with a second heavy stun that chains in unblockable finisher (this counter will still do light damage and act exactly like it but will increase his mix up and help his ablility fight multiple opponents)
-zone will do 30 dmg instead of 20 because it’s slow as balls
- shove will drain 25 stamina instead of 15 but block shove will not
Aramusha:
-Top heavy finisher will be unblockable
-Aramusha will no longer be able to get a top heavy off certain heavy parries
All guard:
-AG light recovery after stun will be speed up for better pressure
-AG can held and cancelled like other all guard
-AG will have a new move, a 360 degree spin move, he will spin twice hitting four times total (AG zone, light+heavy)
These three I know need some love but this is only my opinion in what would make these characters better. Valkyrie and conquer got love that they needed but yet weak characters such as warlord and shugoki only receive nerfs. I believe warlord also need a nobushi Style rework as he is only viable for ledging and headbutt spam (he was my previous main).
The only way for character to receive needed love is to spread our thoughts across the forums even if we disagree.
