Ghost Mode - Fell through map, died & lost all progress. | Forums

[Shadyzz]

So I’m not one to gripe about things, but my friends and I were pretty far into Ghost Mode and we had a character fall through the map when exiting a car and the character was killed and all progress was lost.

Now This is straight bull, there’s no way that someone should be penalized for there being inconsistencies with map seams, which is 100% the developers responsibility. If you have holes in your maps that players can fall through, there should be some kind of reconciliation which can occur.

so to all,the Ubi employees who may be on this forum addressing these issues, can you inform us if there’s anything that can be done about recovering this character and it’s progress?

i certainly hope you had the foresight and common sense to enable such a possibility, because that’s a LOT of time to lose to such a ridiculous developer error.

thanks.

[del190228125713607]

Hello Shadyzz,

It's very unfortunate that this happened to one of your squad members. Thousands of people have lost their Ghost Mode characters to this and other glitches, and Ubisoft's response to character restoration tickets has been that they're unable to restore data.

However, there is still a chance that your squad member can restore their lost character themselves. The criteria for this is simple. After they KIA'd and found their save file gone, they are still in-game, on a new character or doing anything. As long as they have 'not' quit the game, there is still a chance. If they haven't quit the game, and if you're playing on PC, please add me on Uplay (the name is the same as you see here) and I'll help you and your squad member.

The reason I'm not posting this particular method here, is because it may spark a lot of controversy from Ubisoft. If your squad member did quit the game, then make sure that in future, all of you back up your save files regularly, just in case something like this happens again. The method for backing up save files can be found at https://forums.ubi.com/showthread.ph...ing-Ghost-Mode

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[Ghost-Ami]

Has anyone tried alt+F4ing out of the game real quick while falling?

My experience has been that abruptly exiting the game at any time as long as you are not down waiting for revive or already KIA saves the character's life and, upon reboot, places them in the nearest spawn point as if nothing dangerous had happened.

From what I've gathered it seems that going down is what triggers savegame deletion, then if you're revived a new save is created.

So my theory is that as long as you're "up", even in the midst of a situation that will surely lead to your death, you can quit out of the game and come back just fine.

Obviously it's still good to back up your saves, but alt+F4ing before you actually go down or die and then rebooting should get you back into the game slightly faster than having to copy and paste your backup saves back into your savegame folder.

[del190228125713607]

Has anyone tried alt+F4ing out of the game real quick while falling?

non-exist-ent, yes, Alt-F4 out of a dangerous situation has been the shining point of Ghost Mode fail-safes since the launch almost 4 weeks ago. As for leaving (Alt-F4 or otherwise) after you're down, that's a warning message you get when you start Ghost Mode for the first time, that it will delete your save. It seems a lot of people I've met in Ghost Mode public matchmaking actually skipped the warning pages, and aren't even aware of this and learn it the hard way.

[Ghost-Ami]

non-exist-ent, yes, Alt-F4 out of a dangerous situation has been the shining point of Ghost Mode fail-safes since the launch almost 4 weeks ago. As for leaving (Alt-F4 or otherwise) after you're down, that's a warning message you get when you start Ghost Mode for the first time, that it will delete your save. It seems a lot of people I've met in Ghost Mode public matchmaking actually skipped the warning pages, and aren't even aware of this and learn it the hard way.

Well, leaving while you're down is just part of it, your save is deleted as you go down, or so I have concluded.

In experimenting with savegame backups I've noticed that trying to make a backup while down---like if you're not expecting to be revived because your teammates are falling as well---doesn't work, it's already too late.

[del190228125713607]

If by your definition, down means that you can still be revived, no, your save is not yet deleted. There's a couple of possibilities to still save your character at this point.

If down means KIA, yes, your save is deleted.

When I say down, I mean that I can still be revived, just to clarify.

[Ghost-Ami]

If down means that you can still be revived, no, your save is not yet deleted. There's a couple of possibilities to still save your character at this point.

If down means KIA, yes, your save is deleted.

Well, what I mean is that while down waiting for revive I repeatedly tried copying the current save files at that moment.

Then after going KIA I tried to restore my character using those savegame copies made while down.

The saveslot was still empty.

However if you are surrounded by thousands of d00dz and are about to be murdered but make a savagame copy right then it'll still restore your character.

So what other conclusion is there than that it's being down awaiting revive that causes the save to be deleted rather than actually going KIA? And that if you are successfully revived a new savegame is then created?

If you have other thoughts/experiences relating to this with details do let me know, I'm really curious as to exactly how it works and was sure I had it sussed.

Before GRW I came from Fallout 4 where I did a lot of modding, and I always love to understand exactly how things work. By testing and observation if I can't take them apart myself.

[del190228125713607]

I understood perfectly what you tried to do, and your results were as they should be. This is because the 'possible' way to save your character once you're down, and have no chance of being revived, has little to do with backing up save files. But as I said in my first response to this thread, I won't be posting this particular method publicly. You're more than welcome to add me on Uplay, and I'll explain it to you there.

[RedCeII]

On PS4, I was flying a helicopter over the lake in P.N. Agua Verde when the SAM in the middle of the lake started locking on, and as soon as the missile was in the air, I bailed. I was pretty close to the water, so I was hoping I’d be able to pull my cord fast enough to avoid the odd “death by jumping into water” scenario. I wound up under the lake, parachuting as if I was in the air, and luckily I wasn’t Hunted or anything and had time to open the map and fast-travel to a Safe House.

It’s the one and only time I’ve ever fallen under the map since buying the game on day one.

[Ringwraith5]

I'm a shameless save-scummer. I admit it freely. I regularly upload my saves to the cloud (PS4). The thing is I ONLY ever use them if the death in question was not my fault. Got careless and ran head-on into a bunch of sicarios? Game over. Heli got shot down too low to safely parachute out? Game over. Fell through the surface into the "underworld"? THAT is when I restore my file.

Yes, I realize some would consider it cheating, but then my reply is: how fair was it to kill off my character because some level designer didn't do their job right and left a "hole"? I have no problem witb accepting the consequences of my actions, as long as they really ARE the consequences of MY actions. I've lost a number of GM characters and while they are missed, I know that in each and every case the fault was mine. The two times I actually restored my backups, the fault was NOT mine.

So yeah, until this particular game mode is properly fixed, patched and mended, save scvmming is the only way to be sure.

EDIT: didn't know scvmming (with a U) was a word that has to be censored... O_o