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    Weapons

    Got a few questions I would like to run by you all.
    1. Since the advent of "The House," every other Submachine gun seems very disappointing. So, on this subject, I have a first wave Vector 45 APC. Fully upgraded with Brutal, Unforgiving, and Destruction. Dose this weapon have any uses any longer??

    2. Shotguns. OK, we have The Showstopper. Would that trump every other shotgun??

    Thank You.
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    1. Brutal is useless on SMGs. The spread on them is bad. You literally have to be at an NPC or enemy player's throat in order for Brutal on an SMG to work, and even so, headshot damage was nerfed. Compared to the rest of the weapons, the House and M4 are the only unbalanced weapons. If you were to remove the M4 and House from the game, you will find that there is more balance among the next "best" weapons than there is with the House and M4 added. So even if I were to recommend a good talent trio for the Vector, as I main a Vector, you will still lose to the meta weapons. Sorry, bud. There's nothing you can do about it, and as long as the devs don't influence a meta change, then nothing will ever change.

    2. Try the Super 90. I've won 90%+ of my Super 90 v Showstopper fights and the only time I've lost was when I entered a fight with low health or my footing / aiming was off [PC]. But, people are too blinded by the meta to understand that the Showstopper is ****.
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    Hi Yankee. That depends on the use: PVE or PVP? Your Vector is ok in PVE, but against other players, I recommend a House or MP 5 with talents such as lethal, responsive or unforgiving. In case of shotguns, the Showstopper is the best, IMO. Yet, it will be nerfed in the next patch. I like the SASG Tactic.
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    Sorry, it is called deadly not lethal.
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    Yes, I fully understand that the talent "Brutal" is a waste on any SMG. I need to check to see if I can re role that talent. But the other two are quite good. Yep, when I enter the DZ I carry the LT M4, The House, and the Famas. But I guess that has to do with someone own set up. All the rest of the weapons are collecting dust. Need to do a late spring cleaning.

    Thank you all for your input.
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    The tactical Super 90 SBS is my favorite shotgun to run with Striker. I think its a real good balance between rate of fire and per shot damage. Try accuracy on the mods and you will be pleased. Look for the MP5N blueprint when it rolls around, its still a really good choice. The Super 90 also has blueprint available.
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    I've got one of each gold weapons in my stash (not pistols) mainly for nostalgia but do have a vector I carry as a back up SMG on my tac build due to low FA and ST stats. Mind you if I could get a HOUSE blueprint with CC set and be able to reroll at least one other talant then that too would be in the stash.
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    Dont play PVP...

    Use the Bullfrog (famas) & the Aug, hybrid build highest 283 do fine on tier 5 hard

    Never use shotguns

    Qiuck answer i do not know
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    Try the SASG. I find it hits harder and if you're quick enough, shoots faster. But once you have a showstopper, you eventually become too lazy to manually pull that trigger so fast for any other shotgun.
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