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Being (very specialized) 'SigInt' he doesn't have a call sign and would probably choose from a selection of signs reserved for High Risk Operations, which I assume is how Nomad knew whom he was speaking to. Off the books operators have their briefs as well. Which informs them of concurrent Ops in the same region.
From memory, he's used Postman, Panther, Matchwood and Paladin; and likely even more that's in the VA throughout the games (I can't think of right now). Whatever Sam's handle was while in the Navy, isn't known; but it's quite normal to lose it, when you change div. or you move into Echelon.
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Very true Paladinja, I just found it very strange that Nomad knew who he was talking too. He states "looks like we're riding shotgun with Sam Fisher" and then recants a story of a friend who knew him from his time at Paladin 6 security.
Whilst I absolutely love the Clancy crossovers, and would love to see Nomad provide off map support in the next splinter cell, it struck me as odd that the newest Ghost Team Lead knew by voice and previously unestablished callsign identifyer that he was speaking to the sole director of an independent clandestine division of the NSA who answers only to the president of the USA. Furthermore Nomad was even able to recant examples of Fisher's personal life and service history...
Something doesn't add up, and we know that Sam doesn't run his mouth, only two other people know the story of the elephant after all...
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I think GLASSGH0ST, it's just a reflection of the changing times. Paladin 9 (PMC) is actually a front for 4th Echelon (sort of). Sam wisely knew that removing Echelon from Senate funding, severs a pretty glaring avenue of compromising Echelon. Which had already been exploited to the demise of Echelon 3.
Just as the GRS replaces security details for the CIA meets (spies mostly bargain secrets over coffee at public cafes now). Technology has seemingly replaced the cloak & dagger spy. Echelon aren't about spying however. They are a multi-nationally organised watchdog. In the real world, no one whom isn't part of Echelon, knows anything about Echelon; but they DO work with various intelligence organisations and interpol.
All operations in any given region are informed upon all operators in any given region. It's a network. So no doubt Nomad knew "Matchwood" was assigned as a listed asset operating in the same region. Due to the level of tech employed in clandestine Ops these days. By the time you know one group or another is focused on you, it's already too late. They probably got what they came for, leaving everyone else deep in the weeds.
Sam doesn't need a cover. That's not his job. He's not James Bond. He's a highly specialised signalman, whom's group is tasked with counter information warfare, anti-insurgency, counter cyber terrorism and information gathering/sharing.
So the way I read the situation is that Nomad knew Echelon was operating in the area, just never expected the two to cross paths. I doubt Sam is unknown among the Military or intelligence communities. There isn't really any reason for him to be.
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I don't think callsigns are permanent. "Panther" was 4E's designation for Sam Fisher - and most likely for that particular capture mission - and in Wildlands his designation is Matchwood.
There is no plausible explanation for Nomad recognizing Sam Fisher - unless they've met before but I doubt it - by callsign or voice alone. It was done solely to impress upon us how much of a badass Sam Fisher really is. There is no 'canon' explanation.
I'm also a little surprised that Echelon made their/his presence known to the local CIA/DEA/JSOC element since they've always been shockingly secretive...even infiltrating the CIA at one point. They usually keep everything hush hush from other agencies....primarily because they make Ghost Recon look like a 'white' Spec Ops unit. Fifth Freedom and all that.
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I think the only reason they did it, is because there is likely a whole new generation of gamers, who have yet to be introduced to a Splinter Cell game, and have no who Sam Fisher is. After all, it's been several years since there has been a new SC game, and Conviction and Blacklist were only added to BC for Xbox after SO1 released, and PS4 has never had a Splinter Cell game. So these younger gamers might have heard about Splinter Cell, but never got to experience them.
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Nah, man. It's quite normal for operations in the same area to be under advisement. The details are unimportant, but the operative and their handle would be listed on the boards. There are loads of reasons for this.Originally Posted by shobhit7777777 Go to original post
See, you're making the same mistake loads of people do. Looking at Sam as someone elevated from having been a SEAL and that's just not the case.
Echelons Ops would be highly secretive but there's no need for it's members to be and they aren't. Otherwise Lambert and Reed would never have been able to pull that **** between Sam and Sarah. That was out and out ****ing betrayal man.
The President was right to want to end Echelon's funding. It's a massive oversight to how Echelon operates which is with impunity. Echelon needs to be free of any constraints. They are more than capable of running their own funding, as you got to see in Blacklist. -- Like, a whole aspect of the game was doing exactly that.
Didn't know Blacklist was up. Wasn't a week or so ago. Will definitely be down loading that.Originally Posted by Megalodon26 Go to original post
About the PS though. The HD collection (which included Conviction, bewilderingly) released in 2010. Of course, you couldn't actually play Conviction on PS3. You owned it on Uplay via PSN so if you had a 360, you could access it all.
Every thing wrong with PS3-4 is totally on Sony and their flipping on consumers along with ardent desire to shut them out of backwards compatibility and not honour their customers library (the only thing about a console that matters). It's a huge reason why I don't use my PS4. If I didn't get it for free, I certainly wouldn't have bought one. Not with 60 physical games and 7yrs worth of digital PSN purchases that became totally useless (except for still having a PS3). Never will I give money to Sony for gaming, ever again.
The only reason you can't blame PS4's install base for keeping Sony from packing it in. Is because they are mostly 360 owners. Out of 140 PSN friends on PS3, almost none of them bought a PS4. Of that, I am proud.
But yeah, Ubisoft had made sure that Splinter Cell was always on offer throughout Gen 7, on PS. What I'm surprised about is that Blacklist didn't get an enhanced port for XB1. Still, a beautiful game, best in the series, bar the first. The only Gen 8 console it released on was Wii U and it really popped out on that.
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I agree with a lot of what you say Palad, but at the same time I think megalodon hit the nail on the head, the introduction was definitely aimed at the uninformed of the series.
I don't know your background or experiance so you may be correct, but though my own experiance and also confirmation from my professional network, you are right in saying you are briefed on other operators in the area of operation, in my own experiance, this is limited to callsign over the network and unit / department name. Furthermore the ghosts state on multiple occasions that they have no idea how many CIA "assets" are in country, and any reference to other persons or agencies by Bowman is cited as "The Activity".
From my perspective it makes sense for Sam to know who Nomad is, he is the director of a division of the NSA (which is military), and it is highly likely that Nomad has unknowingly provided field Intel for sam at some point, or Sam's people feeding Intel to Nomad via Bowman. It would be really cool if the story of wildlands was challenged in a future TC game, and instead of the CIA driven revenge OP that we all know and love, it turns out the NSA was manipulating the events the whole time.
However Sam is so a legendary former Navy SEAL with a well established backstory in splintercell essentials and touched on briefly in convictions. I would have thought it more likely that weaver have a personal connection or knowledge of Sam Fisher. This represents a huge missed oppertunity for the franchise.
