How come no one talks about kensei's absurdity? | Forums

[RexXZ347]

Kensei heavies are fast ?? Damn where did you see that. Their are among the slowest of the entire game.

Try playing the game to know it. His only slow attack is the dodge attack. But his heavy attacks are NOT one of the slowest. I can name others who have slower heavies with him highlander, aramusha, shugoki, lawbringer, warlord, valkyrie, warden.

[Siegfried-Z]

Try playing the game to know it. His only slow attack is the dodge attack. But his heavy attacks are NOT one of the slowest. I can name others who have slower heavies with him highlander, aramusha, shugoki, lawbringer, warlord, valkyrie, warden.

First of all dont say kid things like try playing the game before etc. I am rep 107 and rep21 with Kensei and while their are plenty of complains about Kensei i've never ever see one about the speed of his heavies.

For your information : Highlander has slower heavies but with HA And his heavies are faster while doing his turn arround moove and while in offensive stance.

Shugo are slower but he has HA on and he is a Heavy.
Warlord are not slower.
LB looks on par with.
Valk has a crazy mix up on her heavies that's why their are slow.

Aramusha and Warden ones are faster.

If dont agree with that, then you're a beginner in the game without a doubt.

And i don't even speak to all others char you didn't talk about .

Definitly kensei heavies speed is not a problem.

[SenBotsu893]

Ahahha, hahaha, oh Bro, you do know that Kensei has THE HARDEST HITTING LIGHT in the game with whooping 20 Damage, do you? ^^

he also has the weakest lights too 12 dmg for 600 ms. is just laughable.

you are also wrong about the strongest lights. plenty of characters that have 500ms lights that give a guaranteed of 22 or more damage . pre buff warden included.

[BrokenFoxx]

Guys I think you are seriously letting the main point drift here, in detriment of petty squables.

When I created this thread it was solely for the purpose that I, as a mere rep40, although having almost 4 months of play, have tremendous hard-time fighting against even more basic Kenseis. There were 2 or 3 useful comments on that, comming from Kensei players. As I've read here, the problem is that Kensei's rework was such a masterpiece no one else got something to par with him and, thus, he is kind of overtuned as of right now.

Now, I know I am still fresh meat here, but I am not a bad player. You see the newest players complaining about Cent, Oroshi, even Nobushi, but that's just lack of mechanic flair and character specifics and they'll overcome this eventually, given they continue to play, as I did. But after 4 months I still have the same problems with Kensei.

[HazelrahFirefly]

Difficulty is subjective, please everyone keep that in mind.

[DefiledDragon]

Nobody talks about Kensei's "absurdity" because they're all too busy not talking about Highlander's undodgeable grab...

[UbiInsulin]

Let's make sure to keep the "learn 2 play" posts to a minimum. That is, indeed, not why OP created this thread. If you disagree with their take on Kensei, please just explain why. It might be worth mentioning what heroes you personally play as and the strategies that work for you in the matchup.

[NHLGoldenKnight]

Guys I think you are seriously letting the main point drift here, in detriment of petty squables.

When I created this thread it was solely for the purpose that I, as a mere rep40, although having almost 4 months of play, have tremendous hard-time fighting against even more basic Kenseis. There were 2 or 3 useful comments on that, comming from Kensei players. As I've read here, the problem is that Kensei's rework was such a masterpiece no one else got something to par with him and, thus, he is kind of overtuned as of right now.

Now, I know I am still fresh meat here, but I am not a bad player. You see the newest players complaining about Cent, Oroshi, even Nobushi, but that's just lack of mechanic flair and character specifics and they'll overcome this eventually, given they continue to play, as I did. But after 4 months I still have the same problems with Kensei.

Will you feel better if I tell you that I have been playing this game for a year or so, rep 100, and I even have rep 11 Kensei ( before rework) and I still can't fight that damn sob? There is no way for me, him and Berserker are instant death for me. Berserker gets me on his HA since I do play aggressive, but Kensei gets me efen if I trie to turtle. Only way I can beatcKensei is if I play as Kensei myself. His huge advantage are dodge attacks which cover large area and they help him change direction abruptly . Also, his attacks have weird animations, it is like firs 2/3 of attact are reall slow and then it happens so fast. Also, if you trie to react based on his weapon position it can be hard since (at least on ps4) his weapon is hardly visible during most of the fights. I think he is by far most dangerous and least predictable Vanguard hero.

[voiddp]

well i played kensei untill rep 13, now i play nobushi rep 9, and have to deal with kenseis. When i played him some people was able to react on me and win, some didn't
And i can tell i lot more troubles with highlander, he has more hyper armor moves and they are more accessible than kensei. Range of some hits is also huge. But i can deal with both kensei and hilander, and sure some fights i can't
But when i lose i can see why i lost, where i needed to not try to parry and just block, where i needed to feint and parry his dodge. What i do wrong, like dont use kicks with kensei, etc.
As comparison kensei doesn't have any unreactable moves beside maybe his hilt bash. And to get to actual hyper armour moves he needs to be inside of combo. Everything else is very reactable but you need to react in the right way and not to try to parry everything.

With HL there are some moves that feel very unfair and very hard to react in comparison. Warden has his bash spam with feints and ability to counter your every dodge. Cent has his combo with feints and different timings inside that can punish you very hard. Conq and Valk with their bashes and feint bashes.
This all feels very unfair for me because i sometimes do not know what i did wrong and how was i supposed to react on some of that. Not with kensei.

When i play Nobushi,i often feel that many characters have unfair advantage over mine. Kensei have advantage too because its just better Hero after rework. But i know how to react on every of his moves and what he can do. So i do that when i not fail with something. Maybe topic starter should play with kensei to learn his moves better or something. Like i do with heroes i have troubles with.

[yfkutfui]

how come no one talks about Kensei absurdity?

because it would be absurd to do so of course,

Absurdity - the confrontation between man's desire for significance, meaning and clarity on the one hand – and the silent cold indifference of the universe (or Ubissoft )on the other.