How come no one talks about kensei's absurdity? | Forums

[Awlkara]

I mean, you received lots of helpful feedback and tips on how to fight a Kensei every time you asked on here. Past a certain point if you're not willing to take people's advice, that you expressly asked for, then you are the only person to blame for continuing to have a problem against Kensei.

Exactly.

But on this forum it looks like people prefer asking for nerf than trying To learn how to play.

Kensei is strong but everything he can do is reactable and so punishable.

Another point is their are only few good kensei.. most kensei only do top light/zone and dash for side heavy feint the unblocable.

These one are the maj of kensei players and they are easy to destroy if you are a decent player.

Having troubles agaisnt kensei overall then means having problem with the fighting concept of the game .

Sorry.

Kensei is the only hero that I have issues with.

Everyone else I do not have a problem with, not even Shaman.

Any character that forces you to exploit a weakness of the player rather than the character is an issue.

I also exclusively play Assassins, I don't have the luxury of holding a permanent guard to the whatever side Kensei's zone comes from.

I'm sure if only shield heroes has a permanent guard this would change a lot of minds because then you'd actually have to constantly react as opposed to hold a guard to one side and turn your brain off.

[Vakris_One]

Kensei is the only hero that I have issues with.

Everyone else I do not have a problem with, not even Shaman.

Any character that forces you to exploit a weakness of the player rather than the character is an issue.

I also exclusively play Assassins, I don't have the luxury of holding a permanent guard to the whatever side Kensei's zone comes from.

I'm sure if only shield heroes has a permanent guard this would change a lot of minds because then you'd actually have to constantly react as opposed to hold a guard to one side and turn your brain off.

Ah, so now the petty insults start flying and of course it's always to the tune of "I play the weaker hero who requires brain power while everybody else plays the ez guard heroes."

So what happens now when I tell you that I can beat a Kensei just fine using Orochi, PK and Shaman?

[Awlkara]

Ah, so now the petty insults start flying and of course it's always to the tune of "I play the weaker hero who requires brain power while everybody else plays the ez guard heroes."

So what happens now when I tell you that I can beat a Kensei just fine using Orochi, PK and Shaman?

I already said my part to you in the other thread where we are talking. Go address that so you can understand what I intend to do about my feelings toward Kensei.

[Siegfried-Z]

Kensei is the only hero that I have issues with.

Everyone else I do not have a problem with, not even Shaman.

Any character that forces you to exploit a weakness of the player rather than the character is an issue.

I also exclusively play Assassins, I don't have the luxury of holding a permanent guard to the whatever side Kensei's zone comes from.

I'm sure if only shield heroes has a permanent guard this would change a lot of minds because then you'd actually have to constantly react as opposed to hold a guard to one side and turn your brain off.

Well playing only assassins is your choice.
And to balance reflex guard assassins has other tools.

Look at the top 5 in top 2.5% duel in season 5 .. 3 assassins were in the top 5 : Zerk, Sham and PK.

So i am.not sure this is an argue to say i play assassin and that's why this is hard .

Which assassin do you play?

Can maybe help you.

[Awlkara]

Well playing only assassins is your choice.
And to balance reflex guard assassins has other tools.

Look at the top 5 in top 2.5% duel in season 5 .. 3 assassins were in the top 5 : Zerk, Sham and PK.

So i am.not sure this is an argue to say i play assassin and that's why this is hard .

Which assassin do you play?

Can maybe help you.

This is Season 7 and previously Season 6, it's not even the same game remotely.

I used to play Peacekeeper(I have never touched PK before Season 6 so I know nothing about how strong she was before) but she is in a bad spot right now.

I kind of just flop around between Glad who was my former main, PK and Shinobi.

I'd really want to play Shaman but I really hate her character design and concept.

[Charmzzz]

Look at the top 5 in top 2.5% duel in season 5 .. 3 assassins were in the top 5 : Zerk, Sham and PK.

Kensei was 3rd place, and that was before the massive PK nerf. Also, look at the specific Winrates, Kensei had the highest Winrates (up to 70% vs Orochi) against Assassins.

[RexXZ347]

It's a little bit wierd that kensei have fast attacks even on his heavies. I can't understand but it's only him that attacks just suddenly hit you without much warnings.

[The_B0G_]

Very balanced hero. Can be strong, has mixups, and some fast moves and lots of slow moves. All mixup starters are slow and reactable.
All other heroes need to be brought up to balance levels of kensei, highlander and shaman, and maybe valk as of now with some tweaks. Which means to have a lot of comboed moves, opener, unblockable, i.e. to have some differentiation in playstyle.
But sadly mauch of the roster are either just 1 move\combo heroes or something overnerfed after it was also too good for roster at some point.

+1 Agree completely.

[Siegfried-Z]

This is Season 7 and previously Season 6, it's not even the same game remotely.

I used to play Peacekeeper(I have never touched PK before Season 6 so I know nothing about how strong she was before) but she is in a bad spot right now.

I kind of just flop around between Glad who was my former main, PK and Shinobi.

I'd really want to play Shaman but I really hate her character design and concept.

Well saddly season 5 figures are at the moment the latest updated we have so.

Hum i would say Glad and Shinobi are funnier than pk but it's up to you.

While Glad can suffer due to very reflex guard.

Sham is very fun man, but again it is all your choice .

If you play pk than just stick at your opponent while fighting kensei . Dont fight him mid distance.

You have the lights and zone option advantages in close combat.

Kensei was 3rd place, and that was before the massive PK nerf. Also, look at the specific Winrates, Kensei had the highest Winrates (up to 70% vs Orochi) against Assassins.

Yep i know pk is in a badder spot right now. Just wanted To show him assassins are not weakier than the others char.

Hum Orochi got his rework since and i am pretty sure this has change a lot.

But Kensei can do well against assassins yes.
He suffer more against turtles.

It's a little bit wierd that kensei have fast attacks even on his heavies. I can't understand but it's only him that attacks just suddenly hit you without much warnings.

Kensei heavies are fast ?? Damn where did you see that. Their are among the slowest of the entire game.

[SpaceJim12]

Kensei is the only hero that I have issues with.

Everyone else I do not have a problem with, not even Shaman.

Any character that forces you to exploit a weakness of the player rather than the character is an issue.

If you don't have troubles with Zerk and Conq, but have troubles with Kensei, I have a bad news for you.
Kensei absolutly beatable and has no stupid spammy moves, that this two have.