How come no one talks about kensei's absurdity? | Forums

[BrokenFoxx]

I mean, c'mon! I can't possibly be the only one feeling Kensei is a little off. In a brief synthesis, he does it all!

The dude has lightning fast pokes, his area attack first strike is hella unpredictable, he has a lot of feints and avariations to his attacks, not to mention the gigantic window he has to feint said attacks into a plethora of other possible attacks, he has hypershield in some moves, he has unblockables, he stuns on gb. Really, guys, I mean... He is everything, he is fast, he has lots of damage, he is unpredictable, his tempo is assymetrical...

I don't wish his demise-by-nerf like they did Nobushi. I just wish he was less absurd, cause his concept is cool. At least a nerf in the window he has to feint, I don't know.

I also know many will just see me as one more noob complaining about stuff, and maybe I am. Guess this is just venting out afterall.

[Awlkara]

I complain about Kensei a lot but most people (namely Kensei players) say that he is fine and that armored lights are justified which they are not.

Fret not, you are not the only one who finds him overtuned, especially compared to the other Vanguards, well after Warden's rework, just Raider.

[Knight_Raime]

I complain about Kensei a lot but most people (namely Kensei players) say that he is fine and that armored lights are justified which they are not.

Fret not, you are not the only one who finds him overtuned, especially compared to the other Vanguards, well after Warden's rework, just Raider.

Only his light finishers have armor. And he doesn't have easy access to them nor is it really ever worth him trading with them. Maybe you should actually learn about a hero before making strong claims like that.

[BrokenFoxx]

Probably because as good as he is, he's nowhere near as outrageous as basically every assassin. His lights may be fast but that's par for the course these days and they aren't especially strong. He's very good, but not unfairly so IMO.

The only real issue I have with him is that I just can't accept Swift Strike being a heavy attack. Heavy dash attacks just feel wrong to me and the opposite side aspect never stops feeling cheap.

The only assassin that is on par with Kensei's absurdity is Shaman, and even skilled Shaman's players pale before skilled Kensei's players. PK and Oroshi have near to zero chances against Kensei, given equal skill. Oroshi still has more chances due to mach 4 light spamming, but PK? I pity her predictability. Long story short, Kensei is the ultimate assassin crusher, his fast lights and tricky feints destroy assassins as he explores their limited-time-stances.

Kensei is just too overall good, he is above par in everything he does: speed, damage, tempo, feint'ability, variations. He is like the Barbie of For Honor, the ***** can do everything.

[Keef739]

Coming from a Kensei main:

Anyone that doesn't realize that Kensei is as strong as or stronger than every other hero doesn't fully understand the mechanics of this combat system.

I'm not advocating a nerf, but most of the roster has a lot of catching up to do.

Personally, my primary reason for using him is the superior block on dodge, which is frustratingly exclusive to him and Conq.

[Charmzzz]

Probably because as good as he is, he's nowhere near as outrageous as basically every assassin. His lights may be fast but that's par for the course these days and they aren't especially strong. He's very good, but not unfairly so IMO.

The only real issue I have with him is that I just can't accept Swift Strike being a heavy attack. Heavy dash attacks just feel wrong to me and the opposite side aspect never stops feeling cheap.

Ahahha, hahaha, oh Bro, you do know that Kensei has THE HARDEST HITTING LIGHT in the game with whooping 20 Damage, do you? ^^

[voiddp]

Very balanced hero. Can be strong, has mixups, and some fast moves and lots of slow moves. All mixup starters are slow and reactable.
All other heroes need to be brought up to balance levels of kensei, highlander and shaman, and maybe valk as of now with some tweaks. Which means to have a lot of comboed moves, opener, unblockable, i.e. to have some differentiation in playstyle.
But sadly mauch of the roster are either just 1 move\combo heroes or something overnerfed after it was also too good for roster at some point.

[DrinkinMyStella]

the only tip I can give as a kensei main is just don't go into a fight against him too aggressive, I can beat aggressive players all day with just dodge heavies, you need to play more passive and not parry happy, if you see a heavy from the top be prepared for a soft feint, you really need to block against kensei and try to interrupt that first attack, timing is crucial against kensei. Trust me even as a kensei player I know and understand just how frustrating his in to play against and I crap myself in a mirror match because I know how diverse he is, his main tool is bating you into a parry so he can land a soft feinted heavy finisher whilst your in mid attack, his heavies are slow so don't try to parry just wait to see what direction the fein t comes from. Also his side Dodge is really easily parried these days and cant just be thrown out they have to be used as a counter, remember even if blocked he can go into his unblockable so be prepared for a soft feint into GB, very rarely do kensei players let the unblockable fly unless in dominion.

Edit: Kensei is a pure example of a rework done right, unfortunately ubi didn't do well with the other reworks and they should have all had the kensei, conq, zerker treatment.

[Vakris_One]

I complain about Kensei a lot but most people (namely Kensei players) say that he is fine and that armored lights are justified which they are not.

Fret not, you are not the only one who finds him overtuned, especially compared to the other Vanguards, well after Warden's rework, just Raider.

I mean, you received lots of helpful feedback and tips on how to fight a Kensei every time you asked on here. Past a certain point if you're not willing to take people's advice, that you expressly asked for, then you are the only person to blame for continuing to have a problem against Kensei.

[Siegfried-Z]

I mean, you received lots of helpful feedback and tips on how to fight a Kensei every time you asked on here. Past a certain point if you're not willing to take people's advice, that you expressly asked for, then you are the only person to blame for continuing to have a problem against Kensei.

Exactly.

But on this forum it looks like people prefer asking for nerf than trying To learn how to play.

Kensei is strong but everything he can do is reactable and so punishable.

Another point is their are only few good kensei.. most kensei only do top light/zone and dash for side heavy feint the unblocable.

These one are the maj of kensei players and they are easy to destroy if you are a decent player.

Having troubles agaisnt kensei overall then means having problem with the fighting concept of the game .

Sorry.