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I understand Valk and Warden needed some rework fine. Even Orochi.
Devs made Orochi a spam hero on the console after everything with PK and Aramusha. One button hero. Just press light attack. ****ing thing doesn’t even run out of stamina. 3 lights boom half of health gone already. 2 lights with bleed I’m dead.
Then we have Valk now. She had lightning fast lights already. Did you really have to make her more spam as well? Shield crush abused right left centre. Sweep is much faster. It’s BS saying it’s same. Let me give you an example before I could hidden stance Valk sweep now so can’t it’s so fast. If it’s against 2v1 Valk became invincible coz you can’t block anything coz she will interrupt with very fast light attacks. Sweep is almost guaranteed after any attack that hits. I can’t avoid sweep anymore. When she goes into mix up pure guessing game on the console. It could be anything. Good luck with that. If it’s 2 Valk it’s instant death.
Let me give you how fast Valk is now. If I throw a heavy feint and she throws a light she hits me before my guard recovers from same direction!
Also it’s impossible to get deflect on Valk now. If she does attack into sweep. I get knocked down before I could get my skewer. What kind of BS is this? And it’s bloody sweep every 2 seconds.
Lightning fast attacks plus stun on top good luck with that. Conq doesn’t block chains but she does for some mysterious reason.
How can Devs F up the game every single? Why do you have to do these reworks out of proportion? I play with original heroes like Nobu or Glad. I stand no chance. What part of 400ms lights are extremely hard on console you didn’t understand? Making attacks faster doesn’t differentiate skilled players it’s just making game more spammy at least on the console.
Game is cancer AF now. If I’m fighting against 2 players and 1 is Valk it’s impossible to defend. This game had so much potential and Devs have to destroy it every single time. Rather than looking at issues at hand. They nerfed Nobu 3 times. She is at the bottom already. They even nerfed Shugoki. It just shows how messed up it is. If you wanna nerf some stuff give a rework give something before taking only his viable options away
I look forward to next rework!!!
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I was getting crushed by Valkyrie's spamming the sh!t out of the sweep, I was in despair, I just didn't know what to do so I spent about an hour practicing in the training map with a Lvl 3 bot and I have to say I have them figured out and now punish them all the time,
most of these guys are typical band wagon guys who grasp onto the latest OP character but are in reality mostly one trick pony's who are totally screwed if you know how to dodge their sweep, I punish them all day long now and its immensely satisfying, even when they connect you can still dodge the sweep, guard break and punish, trust me their not as invincible as you might think, give it a try and good luck
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Yeah I know but not just even that. Dom became just impossible to play. Full of cancer. I’m fighting against a Raider and LB. it’s impossible to escape grab or impale. I avoid impale I eat grabbed. I avoid grab I get impaled. How many times can I possibly avoid. Then I get revenge I get knocked down to floor. Before I can even attack I get staggered. Revenge is pointless.Game became pure poison. Dodge recover made 4v4 heaven for heroes like LB Raider etc
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While i agree Dom is almost unplayable right now, the title of your thread is wrong as you're mostly hating Valk rework there ^^Originally Posted by Erhanninja Go to original post
So as a co main Valk since the begenning, i wanted to clarify some points.
First is about her lights. You said her lights were already fast before but not really as they were all 500ms except side finisher which was 600ms. Add that with her only old chain light light heavy and at a good level second light were almost always parried.
Now, To clarify All her lights are still 500ms!
The side finisher has been downed also to 500ms.
Her only 400ms lights are the second or third one FROM THE TOP . So, that beeing said, she doesn't have a 400ms light with stun properties as the stun is only on side light finisher and is 500ms.
The second thing i want to say is about her sweep. . He is just as easy to dodge as before.
If a valk spam it and you always got sweep then the problem is somewhere else...
Last point is about the 1v2 against Valk. . To say she is strong in ganking is a big mistake.
Why :
1/ most of time if she land a sweep she gonna sweep her ally
2/ she doesn't have any unblocables so except landing GB or basic lights or heavies she cant do something to force your reaction
3/ yes she can shield bash you. . But remember that doing that 2 times in 2v1 she gonna give your revenge for two 13 dmg lights... not so good nah ?
Valk is really not good at Ganking.
But yes she is good at 1v1 and at anti-ganking.
To finish, dont forget that she has been nerf too in this rework. . No headbutt anymore and Her shield tackle is now garbage.
I would say Valk is now the perfect balance Char in the game.
Simply because while having many good points (strong mix up, speed, mobility of an assassin with fix guard, superior block and deflect, still good défense etc) she also has many points where some char are far better as :
-all her dash are lights (big punish if parried)
-dmg are not that high
-zone is still useless
-parry punishes are among the weakiest of the game
-No HA
-No unblocable
So Valk is among the only 3 Char of all the game To dont have HA or any Unblocable mooves with PK and Nobushi.
She is just pretty fine right now. Just gonna be use to it.
Well yes sweep is still very easy to dodge.Originally Posted by yfkutfui Go to original post
But most of times like you said, sweep spam is only coming from players who just try her as a new reworked Char.
Against a good old main Valk. . You never gonna know when he gonna sweep or GB
Specially now that new Valk has in my opinion two 50/50 : sweep-GB and heavy into shield bash or GB .
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yea I feel you but you have to remember that Dom is a team game first and foremost, if your unlucky enough to get put with a bad team your going to get ruined by any combo of characters Raider/LB Cent/Shug or Glad/Highlander it really doesn't matter, its about teamwork
I can play one game and get 20 odd kills then in the next game with a change in personnel get my a$$ handed to me, individual skill is only going to carry you so far in a team game, the days of super revenge and killing the whole opposing team are long gone,
its frustrating but I just see who on my team is half decent and try to stick with them as its invariably the team that ganks that wins,
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Well yes sweep is still very easy to dodge.
But most of times, sweep spam is only coming from players who just try her as a new reworked Char.
Against a good old main Valk. . You never gonna know when he gonna sweep or GB
Specially now that new Valk has in my opinion two 50/50 : sweep-GB and heavy into shield bash or GB .[/QUOTE]
LOL!!! sweep was never easy to dodge for me!!! you've really burst my bubble, I was feeling all proud of myself an everything....thinking id finally overcome the sweeping nightmare that is the Valkyrie!!!!
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