One simple idea to make Elimination better: No revenge in the 1v1 portion. | Forums

[SpaceJim12]

The most annoying thing, is when you come to the zone, where someone killed your teammate 10 secs ago, you start to fight and after one hit enemy have revenge. And since revenge HP now buffed, it's almost impossible to win this 1v1. And after revenge buff it seems like everyone now have revenge build on gear. Faster revenge gain, more dps in revenge and more health.Stupid thing...

Let's hope situation will become less idiotic in season 8 and new perks system for gear.

[Haplo_Bane]

Ahhh, that would be my daughter. Handof.... . Might be another Haplo, but I doubt it. She's a normal person and doesn't put up with the ridiculous matchmaking. If it's outrageously one sided (quite often) she'll just home quit. She doesn't play much so be nice to her please. Bring Back Team Shuffle.

[ChampionRuby50g]

Ahhh, that would be my daughter. Handof.... . Might be another Haplo, but I doubt it. She's a normal person and doesn't put up with the ridiculous matchmaking. If it's outrageously one sided (quite often) she'll just home quit. She doesn't play much so be nice to her please. Bring Back Team Shuffle.

Ahh ok, I thought that she would’ve been in a group and because Kingandy and co where also on her team. Sir Pouria was the name off the account and I thought it may have been you because of the high rep, 250+.

[CandleInTheDark]

The most annoying thing, is when you come to the zone, where someone killed your teammate 10 secs ago, you start to fight and after one hit enemy have revenge. And since revenge HP now buffed, it's almost impossible to win this 1v1. And after revenge buff it seems like everyone now have revenge build on gear. Faster revenge gain, more dps in revenge and more health.Stupid thing...

Let's hope situation will become less idiotic in season 8 and new perks system for gear.

Thing there is your opponent has just been in a fight, quite possibly his hp is lower, then he has a second person coming in and this is exactly why revenge build up needs to be a thing 1v1 if it is a thing at all (which is a different argument). No revenge 1v1 would also be easily abused, 4v1 but only one is locked on so it counts as 1v1, only as soon as that person gets into trouble they unlock and the next locks on and so on, it doesn't even need that much communication or a group to do it if they know that is how things go.

Ultimately though a lot of this comes from people expecting 1v1 in 2v2 and 4v4 modes, so long as it is a team game team mechanics such as crowd control and xv1 as well as countermeasures to these in revenge will apply. There is one place that a 1v1 no additions battle is guaranteed and if that is what people want then that is where they need to go. Same applies to dominion, if people want to have a game where all they focus on is kills rather than the objective then they should be on the deathmatch playlist but that won't happen so long as kills have as much an impact on the score as keeping the objectives.

[Haplo_Bane]

But Candle,I've had the reverse happen. A guy 1v1ing someone,beats them before I arrive. His teammate arrives when I do,so now I'm 2v1ing. The original guy pops his stored revenge. I'm now 2v1ing with one in revenge. Doesn't happen often because of the unique circumstance,but I don't think it's right. Although I now tend to wait a bit out of target range so his meter drains. Oh and Mr Ruby,still the Platonic Hater. I would never join the 1000 crew. They all have bad net (and they know it) and just gank and light spam. I no longer rock with any premades. They've all turned nasty. I go solo and try to help the new guys. Had a ripper session last night. My teammates were all under 20 rep, the enemy were 80-120 rep. I thought 'stuff the zones' and ran around like a mad bastard helping first one,then another. We won 4 matches before they quit. I've even started beating the 'top' premades lately and you know what ? ALL the top players quit to preserve their k/d. Pathetic. Still can't beat Atory or Smokey (Smokey. You know I taught that little bastard before he turned on me.Knows all my tricks) Oh, and I've unblocked you by the way. I always block people that send me annoying messages. I don't do text wars.

[ChampionRuby50g]

But Candle,I've had the reverse happen. A guy 1v1ing someone,beats them before I arrive. His teammate arrives when I do,so now I'm 2v1ing. The original guy pops his stored revenge. I'm now 2v1ing with one in revenge. Doesn't happen often because of the unique circumstance,but I don't think it's right. Although I now tend to wait a bit out of target range so his meter drains. Oh and Mr Ruby,still the Platonic Hater. I would never join the 1000 crew. They all have bad net (and they know it) and just gank and light spam. I no longer rock with any premades. They've all turned nasty. I go solo and try to help the new guys. Had a ripper session last night. My teammates were all under 20 rep, the enemy were 80-120 rep. I thought 'stuff the zones' and ran around like a mad bastard helping first one,then another. We won 4 matches before they quit. I've even started beating the 'top' premades lately and you know what ? ALL the top players quit to preserve their k/d. Pathetic. Still can't beat Atory or Smokey (Smokey. You know I taught that little bastard before he turned on me.Knows all my tricks) Oh, and I've unblocked you by the way. I always block people that send me annoying messages. I don't do text wars.

Yeah that’s too true, everytime I’ve fought them, always had a bit of lag and it’s always been the cheesiest tactics. Doesn’t always get them the win though.

I can’t stand people who leave to preserve the K/D. I’ll never leave a game because I know how bad it will effect my team, even if I’m going negative I won’t rage quit. But yeah, heaps of players in our region are really just weak.

I was thinking earlier how I most likely have sent a toxic message to you in the past for a reason that would have been pointless. Sorry about that, but I’m happy we are getting along well here. Can’t change the past, but we can forgive and forget.

[CandleInTheDark]

But Candle,I've had the reverse happen. A guy 1v1ing someone,beats them before I arrive. His teammate arrives when I do,so now I'm 2v1ing. The original guy pops his stored revenge. I'm now 2v1ing with one in revenge. Doesn't happen often because of the unique circumstance,but I don't think it's right. Although I now tend to wait a bit out of target range so his meter drains.

Well yeah his teammate turned up and you got unlucky when you went after him though in that situation it might have been best to external block him and focus on the teammate first. At the same time though I would bet the scenario I laid out is more frequent than that (not saying it doesn't happen, it clearly has to you and if it has to you it will to others, I mean in general) and the more frequent scenario is the one the devs need to make sure has a countermeasure for.

Honestly, if they could make a set of changes that would make revenge less necessary or even enable them to remove it I would be happy, I don't think it should be in the game period, but it is and there are reasons it is and right now that is the state of things. I am hoping that it at least isn't as crazy as it can be when the gear stats are replaced by perks (though there likely will be at least one that increases revenge build and there are still revenge attack feats).

[AramenThePiper]

In my opinion, Elimination could be improved so much more.
For example, the area you are in must remain blocked off from the rest of the map until one of you dies. This will eliminate the ganking problem unless somebody gets reanimated.

[AzureSky.]

It's really difficult to get revenge on a 1vs1 situation, you must be really bad at doing mixups to open opponents, i advice practicing them, watch some videos and know how to do them, and i repeat: it's really had to actually get revenge on a 1vs1 situation.

[AramenThePiper]

It's really difficult to get revenge on a 1vs1 situation, you must be really bad at doing mixups to open opponents, i advice practicing them, watch some videos and know how to do them, and i repeat: it's really had to actually get revenge on a 1vs1 situation.

Actually it's very easy to do if you have equipment. Also, with character that don't have proper openers, the problem increases tenfold.