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    Highlander's grab needs a range nerf

    Highlanders rely on it and not all characters have convenient and fast enough light attacks to prevent it. It's a free pass 1 v 1 if you're not concentrated and this game is not meant for the top tier players only, so consider the casual part of us.

    Make the highlander work for the grab, not just hover towards me with that hand forward as if he's a sith master performing a reverse force pull while I'm dodging backwards.
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    if anything needs to be nerfed on highlander its his phrase he says when the player spams whatever attack triggers it. drives me crazy
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    Originally Posted by beerbariandh Go to original post
    if anything needs to be nerfed on highlander its his phrase he says when the player spams whatever attack triggers it. drives me crazy
    It's when he enters his offensive stance. It doesn't bother me but I can see where yoy're coming from, when theres two highlanders it can sound pretty dumb lol
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    I'd rather have an annoying phrase being spammed so I easily recognize his stance switch. The visual signal is minimal and easily visually blocked.
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    Originally Posted by Invisih0le Go to original post
    I'd rather have an annoying phrase being spammed so I easily recognize his stance switch. The visual signal is minimal and easily visually blocked.
    I think his kick soft feint into grab should be removed. Tracking of grab is great and window for dodge is so tight when he soft feint kick into grab that its nearly impossible to dodge correctly - especially in team fights. And when enemy team has 2+ HL well its mostly gg. He should be able to perform kick or grab that's all
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    Originally Posted by Darkmight_cz Go to original post
    I think his kick soft feint into grab should be removed. Tracking of grab is great and window for dodge is so tight when he soft feint kick into grab that its nearly impossible to dodge correctly - especially in team fights. And when enemy team has 2+ HL well its mostly gg. He should be able to perform kick or grab that's all.
    I rarely ever get caught in it, as long as you keep up pressure and don't give him space he can't use it.
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    Originally Posted by The_B0G_ Go to original post
    I rarely ever get caught in it, as long as you keep up pressure and don't give him space he can't use it.
    Last night apparently only 3 people were playing duel. One being myself and the other two both running HL. I found when one on one their grab doesn't work to well. Easy to see coming, and I either play Kensei, Glad, or Beserk so I can dodge out of the way easy. Thing that gets me is even on a deflect im taking massive damage. Like I didn't deflect at all. Kind of irritating.
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    Originally Posted by beerbariandh Go to original post
    Last night apparently only 3 people were playing duel. One being myself and the other two both running HL. I found when one on one their grab doesn't work to well. Easy to see coming, and I either play Kensei, Glad, or Beserk so I can dodge out of the way easy. Thing that gets me is even on a deflect im taking massive damage. Like I didn't deflect at all. Kind of irritating.
    Why even deflect vs him though? His attack are all slow and he has HA on defensive heavies, parrying is easier than deflects for me at least, I won't assume it's easier for you but thats how I feel.

    I have HL at rep 19, and he's pretty easy to shut down, his Celtic Curse is useless vs anyone who is even a decent defender, his attacks are all slow and easily parried, even my lights are parried often, if an enemy gets in close and uses fast attacks, he is useless. That's why I stopped playing him. I can do much better with even Warlord.

    All character reworks getting fast light spam combos definitely doesn't help his case, I think after the next set of reworks, LB, Warlord and Shugo, you will hardly see any HLs, the only reason he's even decent is his kick/grab mixup and everyone is getting faster and faster attacks on reworks that negate it completely.
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    Originally Posted by The_B0G_ Go to original post
    I rarely ever get caught in it, as long as you keep up pressure and don't give him space he can't use it.
    Softfeint from one cc to another is absurd. Also what you wrote is true but only for fast att chars or chars with side dodge att but with slow heavy chars you are mostly screwed. Your only chance is that tight dodge window. In 1v1 its OK but in 4v4 its mess.
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    Originally Posted by Darkmight_cz Go to original post
    Softfeint from one cc to another is absurd. Also what you wrote is true but only for fast att chars or chars with side dodge att but with slow heavy chars you are mostly screwed. Your only chance is that tight dodge window. In 1v1 its OK but in 4v4 its mess.
    Certain characters for sure are at a disadvantage compared to others when it comes to HL but not many, what characters are you referring to?
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