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[Maxime_Qc-]

Why does the kensei as become such a fkn ******* character ?



Super fast ... so fast that even if i know what he gonna do i just can't fkn counter it

All his move has become so .. how can i say that ( sorry im french lol. Litteraly the inverse of highly telegraphed..)

Even if i know he gonna throw me a top light i can't flk deflect it even if he doing it again and again

With some delay....

And why does he throw such a fast top light after his dodge heavy...

Even tho hes doing it 100% of the time due to the move being SUPER safe it's impossible to parry....

If the dodge heavy hit me it seems to be GARANTEE ... unless maybe if you have an active guard...and allready had it up.. i don't know....

So i can only block the light after dodge heavy because of the recovery on the first block ?

And why does he seem to have no recovery at all...

Like he can dodge out of a any ****ing attack

Wtf

He also Now as the strongest punish out of a guardbreak ( i think its 40 damage for A SIDE HEAVY) ... Not counting wall splat

So many fkn feint and NEVER out of stamina .....


AND have you allready seen a kensei on revenge mode fighting 2 or more people
.. untouchable ... even unnaproachable

[We.the.North]

On one side, you have Kensei's "gallop" dodge attacks making him immune to everything for 2-3 seconds.

On the other side, you have Valkyrie's dodge attack that roots her in place, not even ... you know ... dodging any attack.

Balanced.

[Vakris_One]

On one side, you have Kensei's "gallop" dodge attacks making him immune to everything for 2-3 seconds.

On the other side, you have Valkyrie's dodge attack that roots her in place, not even ... you know ... dodging any attack.

Balanced.

I wouldn't call Kensei being able to be hit out of his dodge attack "immune":

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DcfhGJxIeA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H_RjQp6rUk0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FDtS3it6olg

His dodge attack properties function the same as any other in the game. The fact that Valkyrie (and Nobushi) have abysmal dodge attacks that can't dodge most things is a problem with Valk and Nobu, not the Kensei.

[We.the.North]

True, certain character have a very wide range of attack side HEAVY. Then again ... you wont often see players do side heavies from neutral that aren't feint bait.

Kensei dodge attack will dodge all other fast attacks in the game. I know a Shinobi has NOTHING that can track a Kensei dodge attack ... even the quad dodge kick will whiff in the air while it catch any other character's dodge in this game (except Shaman and Berserker)

[SenBotsu893]

On one side, you have Kensei's "gallop" dodge attacks making him immune to everything for 2-3 seconds.

On the other side, you have Valkyrie's dodge attack that roots her in place, not even ... you know ... dodging any attack.

Balanced.

i gues you mixed up valkyrie with nobushi. since valk has i-frames on her dodge attack but nobushi does not have any i frames on any dodge attack

[Vakris_One]

True, certain character have a very wide range of attack side HEAVY. Then again ... you wont often see players do side heavies from neutral that aren't feint bait.

Kensei dodge attack will dodge all other fast attacks in the game.

Yes, just like every other dodge attack in the game minus poor Nobushi's.

I know a Shinobi has NOTHING that can track a Kensei dodge attack ... even the quad dodge kick will whiff in the air while it catch any other character's dodge in this game (except Shaman and Berserker)

That's because the kensei has the slowest dodge attack in the entire game and he can slightly delay the startup . If you're not throwing out a side attack that can disrupt him before he hits you then he will hit you. During a quad dash the Shinobi is not throwing out anything that can disrupt the Kensei during his slow striking animation.

Tracking-wise, a Shinobi can for sure track a Kensei during his dodge attack if the correct set of circumstances is met

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_GTNVz5UpU

[Awlkara]

His mixup game is stronger than most Assassins and he's tankier with more damage plus has armor.

He has counterplay to any sort of counterplay against him.

He definitely needs some toning down or other heroes need to be buffed in his stead.

If you look at him vs the other Vanguards, minus Tiandi, he is so overtooled that it looked biased.

[Arekonator]

His mixup game is 100% reactable with no 400ms attacks like most assasins have.
He is the only vanguard to get a rework so far, of course he is on different level. I shoudnt have to explain why comparing pre-rework and post-rework character is pointless.
His GB heavy counts as second in the chain and only does 25 dmg.

[Awlkara]

His mixup game is 100% reactable with no 400ms attacks like most assasins have.
He is the only vanguard to get a rework so far, of course he is on different level. I shoudnt have to explain why comparing pre-rework and post-rework character is pointless.

Tell that to Peacekeeper who received nerfs accross the board and no new moves. She's had the most low effort "rework" of all the heroes.

Even Warden and Valk are going to be treated better. (yes I am salty but I've never played pre-rework PK)

[Arekonator]

Tell that to Peacekeeper who received nerfs accross the board and no new moves. She's had the most low effort "rework" of all the heroes.

Even Warden and Valk are going to be treated better. (yes I am salty but I've never played pre-rework PK)

Mechanically her kit got better, the fact her numbers were nerfed bit too hard is another matter entirely. What i said still stands.