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[Erhanninja]

When is this **** going to be fixed? I’m sick and tired of dying to smashing light attack noobs. Literally every orochi at this point light attack spam just smashing the button. Then use kiai when opponent is attacking throw them on the ground two top heavy not dead? Carry on spamming. Just throw few feints here and there for fun. What were Devs thinking doing this after everything with Aramusha? Very disappointing

[Maxime_Qc-]

Agreed that orochi light spam and the entire aramusha kit is completely against the spirit of the final game we looking for!!!!!

[jbs1985]

Personally I don’t think kiai is op, as it most of the times I’ve used it only gets the opponent faster revenge. When I’m using orochi I use iron lungs instead, because kiai is just a revenge feeder. I agree on the light spam though, they’ve tried to work the changes for pc, without considering the consoles and how it affect them. That’s why I think changes should be platform specific and not global. What might work on one does not equal the others.

[Awlkara]

We don't need this game to further embrace the turtle meta that it has for so long.

I used to complain about Orochi lights myself, now I can parry the first hit of his light chain.

In time you will get better.

[Knight_Raime]

They added lag compensation. Which not only smoothed out attacks coming out waaay faster than intended but also added a 67ms? delay to basically every offensive action. You also need to factor in the switch time on the guard. So orochi's triple light combo is 500ms>400ms>400ms. But in reality when it's spammed it's more like 500ms>480ms>480ms.

True spam is easy to react to. If someone is properly delaying their follow up lights (when they are their true speed at 367ms) then that's no longer spam. You're also probably flailing your guard around after you fail to guard each hit. Which just basically guarantees the next follow up hit.

I'd recommend you go put some hard time in the training arena.

[Soldier_of_Dawn]

True spam is easy to react to. If someone is properly delaying their follow up lights (when they are their true speed at 367ms) then that's no longer spam. You're also probably flailing your guard around after you fail to guard each hit. Which just basically guarantees the next follow up hit.

I'd recommend you go put some hard time in the training arena.

With all due respect, I think you're in the minority on this one. Too many players are winning with random light attacks and less skill. The issue does need addressing, especially for those on console.

How the light spam issue needs to be addressed is what you touched on earlier:

They added lag compensation. Which not only smoothed out attacks coming out waaay faster than intended but also added a 67ms? delay to basically every offensive action. You also need to factor in the switch time on the guard. So orochi's triple light combo is 500ms>400ms>400ms. But in reality when it's spammed it's more like 500ms>480ms>480ms.

[Siegfried-Z]

They added lag compensation. Which not only smoothed out attacks coming out waaay faster than intended but also added a 67ms? delay to basically every offensive action. You also need to factor in the switch time on the guard. So orochi's triple light combo is 500ms>400ms>400ms. But in reality when it's spammed it's more like 500ms>480ms>480ms.

True spam is easy to react to. If someone is properly delaying their follow up lights (when they are their true speed at 367ms) then that's no longer spam. You're also probably flailing your guard around after you fail to guard each hit. Which just basically guarantees the next follow up hit.

I'd recommend you go put some hard time in the training arena.

We already discuss about it but what you're saying about Roch lights is clearly not matching with what most players experience of the game and feeling with these lights is.

Maybe at a moment if the entire world say a triple lights combo that fast is just stupid, op and skillless then you should think again about it ?
Just my opinion.

Again, friends of me and myself all more than rep 100 and with good KD ratio are having troubles with Roch lights on console .. many utubers made vids about it.. almost the entire player base get crazy with this combo.
Tbh i believe even a lot of the top 2.5% players have troubles with ..
That + Kiai feat is enough To make Roch the most frustrating char of the game right now (while not OP overall, but frustrating) .

[JediGamerFurius]

I was about to make a video showing how you can block it, but is allready there in the youtube. Honestly, I think some people should quit complaning in the foruns and do some research for a while. Information is never too much.

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[Erhanninja]

I was about to make a video showing how you can block it, but is allready there in the youtube. Honestly, I think some people should quit complaning in the foruns and do some research for a while. Information is never too much.

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I’m sorry but what you are saying is BS.

This guy is playing against a bot in the arena.

First of all his connection with the server is minimum.

Bot in the arena is more than predictable. Attack every x second. Bot never delays no feint nothing.

And bot beats **** out of him.

His great suggestion is adjusting dead zone. We all done that ages ago.

I’m really curious why I never see these people saying yeah I can block yeah I can parry.

If majority of people are complaining about something probably there is some truth to it

[Knight_Raime]

We already discuss about it but what you're saying about Roch lights is clearly not matching with what most players experience of the game and feeling with these lights is.

Maybe at a moment if the entire world say a triple lights combo that fast is just stupid, op and skillless then you should think again about it ?
Just my opinion.

Again, friends of me and myself all more than rep 100 and with good KD ratio are having troubles with Roch lights on console .. many utubers made vids about it.. almost the entire player base get crazy with this combo.
Tbh i believe even a lot of the top 2.5% players have troubles with ..
That + Kiai feat is enough To make Roch the most frustrating char of the game right now (while not OP overall, but frustrating) .

The only lights that come from rochi that are difficult to block are true 400ms lights (which are 367ms) and those come from delaying your lights in combo. You can't spam these. because spam=buffering attacks. and buffered attacks in this game come out slower than they are supposed to. So either you're correctly using the term spam and you're just struggling due to poor reflexes. Or you're misusing the term spam because Orochi technically does light a lot.
Rep doesn't equate to skill. You can still put a 1000 hours into a game and still suck at a particular aspect about it.

400ms lights are designed to be difficult to handle. Top tier players are not complaining about that. They actually complain that those 400ms lights are technically useless right now because static guard heros have a bug that lets them insta block anything on reaction. Even the 400ms delayed lights.

If you're eating actual spammed attacks it's because you have poor reflexes or because you keep trying to switch your guard after you failed to block the first time. Thus you're getting stuck in animation que. OR you're fighting good players who are consistently delaying their 400ms lights and you're having a hard time defending against it. Which is working as intended.

either way you're complaint is wrong. :>