What is the advantage of "heavy" characters in this game? | Forums

[Knight_Raime]

You can ask that same question of any of the classes sans hybrids. As they're the only heros that are actually fleshed out mechanically. Probably at the beginning it was:

Vanguards=simple easy to pick up starter heros.
heavies=harder to kill because more health and more defensive attributes.
Assassins=agile aggressors with poor defense.
hybrids=unique.

But due to how the game currently plays everything is everywhere. Conq is the defensive hero but he can go toe to toe and be aggressive just like an assassin. The game is too basic to justify actual classes. They tried making them as different as possible by having unrealistic numbers on important basic attributes such as attack speed and dodge recoveries. At this point the only really good way to have functional classes whilst making each hero a viable choice in 1v1 and team modes is to triple down on feats.

Meaning feats would have to become stronger and more unique. Have feats only available to that class type AND then a few feats specific to that specific hero.

[We.the.North]

At this point, they should make Lawbringer the heavy character of hte knight and the Conqueror the Hybrid.

LB even have more health.

[Tyrjo]

I find Conqueror to be too offensive and hard to punish to even be called a heavy. Shugoki is in the middle of the pack. and the worst heavy is Warlord at the bottom of the tiers.

[Darkmight_cz]

Everybody can block unblockables, it's called a parry.
Assassins don't "have everything", some may, I don't play them as a rule, but Orochi sure doesn't.
Characters in pyjamas outrun characters in plate armor shocker.

Yes its called parry but assa can parry also + they are faster and have superior dodge and deflect. So his point is that they can do the same as heavy and even better then heavyes.

[Darkmight_cz]

Assassins=agile aggressors with poor defense.

Iam sorry Man but I have to disagree with that one with you. Poor deff really? They can deff same way as heavy + they have superior dodges and deflects which makes their deff even stronger than heavy slow deff chars. And for what cost slightly lower HP well...
Every assa main will say now but we don't have static guard well its not that big problem coz everyone switching guards constantly so its harder only on specific situations. Dodges deflects and speed It's even bigger compensation for assa. Quite frankly you can't say that assassins have poor deff coz its not true.

[DefiledDragon]

Yes its called parry but assa can parry also + they are faster and have superior dodge and deflect. So his point is that they can do the same as heavy and even better then heavyes.

Yeah, except they can't tank damage like a heavy, they don't have chains of HA unblockables like a heavy, they can't just pick you up and slam you on the ground like a heavy, so they cant' do "the same as a heavy" at all.

[Darkmight_cz]

Yeah, except they can't tank damage like a heavy, they don't have chains of HA unblockables like a heavy, they can't just pick you up and slam you on the ground like a heavy, so they cant' do "the same as a heavy" at all.

Wtf man did you played this game? They dont have HA? Zerk has HA on every move. Shaman has like longest throw distance and can pin you on the ground and bite. And those are just samples. Pls install game play it then you can comment. And for tanking dmg they have slightly less HP but more defensive tools so they can just avoid taking dmg speed, agility, superior dodge, deflects +everything as heavy so pls man I will take your comment as joke or troll post 😉

[MumfordDaHound]

Conq is considered the top in the game, Warlord in 1v1 situation is very tough when played by a good player. Shug is limited in 1v1 but hits like a truck. 2/3 are really good as far as heavy hero's go. Once the guard bug is fixed it might change some things around too.

[Knight_Raime]

Iam sorry Man but I have to disagree with that one with you. Poor deff really? They can deff same way as heavy + they have superior dodges and deflects which makes their deff even stronger than heavy slow deff chars. And for what cost slightly lower HP well...
Every assa main will say now but we don't have static guard well its not that big problem coz everyone switching guards constantly so its harder only on specific situations. Dodges deflects and speed It's even bigger compensation for assa. Quite frankly you can't say that assassins have poor deff coz its not true.

Context is important. Reread my post. I was speaking on what the devs ideas probably were. Not how things actually were.

[Darkmight_cz]

Context is important. Reread my post. I was speaking on what the devs ideas probably were. Not how things actually were.

Yeah I saw that after I wrote that post so you are right that those used to be their ideas. 😉
But reality is somewhere else 😁