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[ItBeJUSTICE1]

And as well as all that the recovery time but made his ranged attacks almost 100% useless. You either use it too early and it misses them or they recover from their dodge and punish you. That was the dumbest change they have made yet. I have yet to get a ranged gb on a good player in multiple games

[JediGamerFurius]

And as well as all that the recovery time but made his ranged attacks almost 100% useless. You either use it too early and it misses them or they recover from their dodge and punish you. That was the dumbest change they have made yet. I have yet to get a ranged gb on a good player in multiple games

I guess the shinobi got bad desing, like having range atacks for example. If you put something like that in char with all the punishable ways possible you better don't do it. I rather have some regular kamas with another possibilities. Even the name of the weapon they mess up, kusarigama is a kama linked to a heavy iron weight by a chain, and what shinobi uses is just a kama linked to his arm by a chain. But anyway, they should known better, now the character is a mess, I guess I will take a word for it and move to another hero.

[We.the.North]

I guess the shinobi got bad desing, like having range atacks for example. If you put something like that in char with all the punishable ways possible you better don't do it.

Well ... there are few situations where the ranged attacks are actually good.


- Against many characters with a dodge attack, you can make it so your Quad Dash finishes nowhere near them just to bait their dodge attack. A quick ranged heavy should hit them during their end of combo recovery frames. Works extremely well against Peacekeeper.

- Against Berserker, you can backdodge away from his attack spam and once you're defenetely out of range, start charging your ranged attack. If he finishes his infinite chain, he enters 200 ms worth of recovery frames where he's vulnerable to the ranged GB.

etc.

Seriously, Shinobi is a pain to master ... but to me he's probably the most fun character to play because of the ungodly high skill ceiling. But dont kid yourself. He's in the middle of the meta right now even when played by the best Shinobis out there. Other characters can just do what he does... but better. The only other thing he has over the other character are those ranged attacks which a mostly only good in 4v4 with the stealth feat.

[Maxime_Qc-]

Shinobi back flip is the most useless move in gank.....

Why doing a backflip after attacking is like a free hit for the opponent.... i just don't understand that part !!!

Backflip should be the ultimate evasive move... but lets say i double light a gladiator and do a backflip... EVERYTIME he will track me with a jump attack because he jump faster than i flip back even tho i flipped first...

Or lets say it's 1vs2 and while i hit the guy in front of me i see the red indicator on my right side so i get the F out with a backflip... but no!!... im getting tracked ....

Dumb as F-U-C-K !!!...

Backflip should have ANTI-TRACKING abilitty.... just like some attack have antidodgable abitlity....

why not shinobi got so many BS to deal with allready...

How it feel when you that poor little shino with that Low 90 HP between some GIANT highlander and Lawbringer ganking you.... just getting kicked ,pushed,cabertoss grab etc while the others dun mah glass or heavy bash you with unblockable ....

[JediGamerFurius]

Well ... there are few situations where the ranged attacks are actually good.

I don't think so, to make shinobi playable again they should rework a couple of things. His backflip distance should be increased or he should be able to defend against any atack, The penality for parry or CGB his range atacks should be lower, like, instead of get in the ground, he is pulled against his enemy, it can garantee a heavy or a GB if in close distance but at the long range he will be pulled but it will not garantee a GB or a heavy because that is the hole point of range atacks, for long distance your are safe but at close you are in danger. His health should be the same as orochi. Without that kind of changes, there is no reason for shinobi uses range atacks.