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  1. #11
    I think she is "fine". Not ideal but can definitelly wait till others who need it more are touched first.
    That being said, you might want to take that statistic with grain of salt, because it shoved LB as top3 duelist or aramusha as good in general. Both of those are eye-hurtingly stupid and we all know it.
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    Cry me a river on PK. We've been waiting for over five... ****ing... seasons.... since BETA for Pk to be toned down to proper levels. She has always been top tier since Beta and an absolute cancer to duel against let alone in dominion.

    Shes finally toned down and we will probably see she's in high B tier if not low A.


    She should be looked at LAST of all characters, even DLC ones. Shes had her time in the sun for over a year now and now its time for us with PK PTSD to finally heal.
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    Originally Posted by Charmzzz Go to original post
    Nah, she is not A-Tier. Maybe due to some Pro's, but they put Gladiator into A-Tier, too, even though he had the worst Winrate last Season... So I call BS on PK being A-Tier anymore. Next Season Recap will show anyway. And no, I don't give alot of fcks on some Pro's Tierlist when statistics tell, much clearer, which Character performs well and which one doesn't.
    1st you don't give a fck about her performance in top play 2,5%. So how do you wanna compare her with other chars? 😁 I have to laugh

    2nd so you really think that she needs buffs assap? More then let's say aramusha, shugoki, LB, Raider? Again makes me laugh

    Nah man she is just fine right now she is viable. She was from release of the game mostly S tier and now every PK main crying coz she was nerfed a bit and she is not god tier anymore? 😁 I agree with small dmg buff but its not like priority right now. I agree that Next Season Recap will show how good is she. But I highly doubt she will be somewhere near bottom 😉
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    Originally Posted by Sauronbaine Go to original post
    Honestly, I had some respect for Charmzz despite the fact he had always defended PK's power vehemently.

    But then I saw that he quit PK to go play Orochi or Berserker because they were the FOTM. So he's been trying to play OP characters since the very beginning and he doesn't actually beleive PK needed to be nerfed. I lost my respect for the guy immediatly upon seeing that post. :/

    So I really just dont care what he says anymore. I ignore his posts.
    I can't say if I lost respect for Charmzz coz sometimes he has really reasonable suggestions. But I'm like opposite player I like challenge so I never played and I will never play S tier chars coz it's way to easy. I like to play uderpowered chars coz its more challenging and I can improve my skills faster then just with some OP spaming monster 😉
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    Contrary to popular opinion, playing weak characters doesnt make you stronger.
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    Originally Posted by Darkmight_cz Go to original post
    I can't say if I lost respect for Charmzz coz sometimes he has really reasonable suggestions. But I'm like opposite player I like challenge so I never played and I never will play S tier chars coz it's way to easy. I like to play uderpowered chars coz its more challenging and I can improve my skills faster then just with some OP spaming monster ��
    Ack I deleted that cause I decided it wasn't a good idea to say that. Whoops. Oh well.

    Well, I always play whatever is fun... it just so happens what I find fun are the characters that are weak right now and thats not beacuse I wanna paly weak, its cause their styles are fun to me.
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    Originally Posted by Darkmight_cz Go to original post
    1st you don't give a fck about her performance in top play 2,5%. So how do you wanna compare her with other chars? �� I have to laugh

    2nd so you really think that she needs buffs assap? More then let's say aramusha, shugoki, LB, Raider? Again makes me laugh

    Nah man she is just fine right now she is viable. She was from release of the game mostly S tier and now every PK main crying coz she was nerfed a bit and she is not god tier anymore? �� I agree with small dmg buff but its not like priority right now. I agree that Next Season Recap will show how good is she. But I highly doubt she will be somewhere near bottom ��
    Uhm, you didnt get my Post at all... I dont give a fck about a Tierlist from any Pro Player, yes, but I take Winrates of Duel / Dominion in the Top 2.5 / 4% Bracket over a whole Season as pretty much proven statistics because, well, they are.

    Conq 60% Winrate in Duel last Season - needs Nerf asap
    PK was 58% in S4 - needed a Nerf, too, but they completely gimped her

    I never said that PK did not need toning down. Go look, quote me on it, please... You wont find anything like that. She needed a Nerf, but that Nerf was too much. S7 Statistics will show, I am very sure about this.

    You really think that LB and Raider need Buffs? Oh Bro, the Top 2 guys in Dominion for ages need NERFS. Look at their Winrates in Dom in S4 and 5. They will get nerfed, Devs already stated that in the last Season Recap.

    I am talking about Dominon Balance as it is the most played Game Mode and when Breach is coming there is another highly anticipated 4v4 Mode. PK is trash in 4v4 after her Nerfs.

    Btw, why nobody took my arguments and proved them wrong? Like Bleed being reduced by Debuff Reduction and no chance to compensate it for the PK? Cause Bleed is her Main Damage Source after her "Rework", you know...

    I am crying because her Rework gave her NOTHING besides gimping her. Her playstyle is even more one-dimensional than before. I expected a good Rework, like Kensei, Zerker, Highlander or Orochi got. I dont want her to be god tier, I never stated that. What the actual fck are you talking about?

    And the argument that a Character which was very strong over a long time "deserves" to be low is plain wrong. Reworks should balance Characters, not gamble with the S-or-Trash-Tier-Wheel...
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    Originally Posted by Arekonator Go to original post
    Contrary to popular opinion, playing weak characters doesnt make you stronger.
    It is off topic take it as note. Also its my opinion when you play weak char you will learn faster at least how to proper deff coz when you play just some op spaming monster you are lacking in defense. All coins has 2 sides. But its just my opinion. Point is PK doesn't need buff assap she is fine.
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  9. #19
    I dont play dominion. I play Duels and brawls. From my standpoint, PK is doing just fine.

    I dont really care what people think of dominion. Thats a seperate gamemode from what I play and if they balance for Dominon and not duels, they are alienating people like me.


    Edit: Let me say this. Im not against PK buffs. What im actually against, is returning her to her former glory.

    She can use heavies off a GB. I will always agree to that. She can use debuff nerfs for bleeds or have her bleeds more powerful against debuffs. Its already powerful as it is against anyone without debuff.

    she can use more combos.

    What she doesn't need is roflpwn light attacks that are unstoppable.
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    Originally Posted by Darkmight_cz Go to original post
    It is off topic take it as note. Also its my opinion when you play weak char you will learn faster at least how to proper deff coz when you play just some op spaming monster you are lacking in defense. All coins has 2 sides. But its just my opinion. Point is PK doesn't need buff assap she is fine.
    Just because certain character that i play does have better offensive options than some others doesnt mean my defense play magicaly gets worse. Quite the opposite, you will learn how to flow back and forth from agressive to defensive play and combine them properly. Thats not something you will properly learn on character that overly relies on defense because his offensive options are non existent. If your character got tools for both, offense and defense are not mutualy exclusive.
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