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    Season 6 official Ubisoft win matrix

    Can we not have to wait one month for the win matrix to be released this season? Within one week of the season closure is reasonable.
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    Darn it, ya got me with the click bait title! I came here expecting to see the S6 win matrix.

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    Hey Tyrjo,

    Unfortunately it's not that easy. There's a lot of work that goes into gathering the data, creating the graphics and such. We'll try to get it out as soon as we can after the season ends, but it's most likely going to take some time.

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    Jim.
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    Meaning Ubisoft still hasn't come up with a good idea on how to present some of the obviously unbalanced characters as not so unbalanced when the matrix will clearly show it as such.
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    Hey Tyrjo,

    Unfortunately it's not that easy. There's a lot of work that goes into gathering the data, creating the graphics and such. We'll try to get it out as soon as we can after the season ends, but it's most likely going to take some time.

    Regards,

    Jim.
    This process should be dynamic by now and data collected as it is received. Doing the matrix is litteraly a 2 hours job of putting each match-up win/loss % into the matrix square ... unless you guys need to present the numbers to employees higher up in the decision chain so numbers that would look bad for Ubisoft are manually changed ... but that would be cheating the numbers, which would kindda be like how Faction Wars work anyway.

    Meaning Ubisoft still hasn't come up with a good idea on how to present some of the obviously unbalanced characters as not so unbalanced when the matrix will clearly show it as such.
    End of Season 5 showed Conqueror with 60% overall win rate, mostly due to how unpunishable his shieldbash is and how good it is to punish a lot of move in this game. Nothing has been done to nerf it yet, it baffles me.

    Seriously, if the state of the game is bad to you, just stop playing and come back 4-6 months later. Dont expect short term game changing changes before marching fire.
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    We.the.North, completely agree, yet from our past experience, i feel that 4-6 months down the line, shaman, conq, HL, and what not will simply be replaced by the next 'cool' and utterly broken hero form the new factions. (Not to mention completely unrealistic, seriously, the monk blocks precise axe and sword blows with his bracer on his ONE HAND??????). At this point I feel that the glorious vision of the game’s true creator, Jason Vandenberghe, will remain just that, a glorious but unfulfilled vision, muddled by the meme-friendly, let's-give-everyeone-MOAR-spam-and-cancer-beacuse-we-have-no-idea-how-to-balance-anything-at-this-point attitude from those that took over. As long as shaman, a hero that weights 50-60kg at best, can throw a person that has around 90kg of body mass+20kg of armor around like he has no weight at all, be an ultra light-spam monster that can SOFT FEINT into way too much options form an UNBLOCKABLE attack clearly shows me that this team really has no idea what the hell they're doing. Ubisoft's answer? We have heard your concerns and will transfer them to the team. Really? Well, you better change the team, cause ATM, your balancing team makes a step in the right direction and 2 steps in the we-like-to-snort-coke-all-day-when-doing-balancing-and-designing-new-heroes direction EVERY SINGLE TIME. Oh, and those ****ty balances take 4-5 months. 4-5 MONTHS!!! You have so many good and constructive players here on the forums that have pointed out at the many flaws and unbalances in the CORE GAME CONCEPTS and heroes, and yet, it takes your professional team 4-5 months to, not balance the game, oh no no no, but to **** it up further? Really? Damn son, at this point, I'm not even mad. I'm just disappointed at what you did with an awesome and unique concept, that would clearly be in a much better state if handled by another, more competent studio like, for instance, CD RED.
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    Originally Posted by Ubi-Jimothy Go to original post
    Hey Tyrjo,

    Unfortunately it's not that easy. There's a lot of work that goes into gathering the data, creating the graphics and such. We'll try to get it out as soon as we can after the season ends, but it's most likely going to take some time.

    Regards,

    Jim.
    Oh OK, at least now we know not to check the blog 10 times a day after the season has ended.

    Originally Posted by Vakris_One Go to original post
    Darn it, ya got me with the click bait title! I came here expecting to see the S6 win matrix.


    Sorry man. Since S6 hasn't officially ended yet, I thought it was an OK title.
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    At this point I feel that the glorious vision of the game’s true creator, Jason Vandenberghe, will remain just that, a glorious but unfulfilled vision, muddled by the meme-friendly, let's-give-everyeone-MOAR-spam-and-cancer-beacuse-we-have-no-idea-how-to-balance-anything-at-this-point attitude from those that took over.
    Did you know he was fired for having a poor attitude ??

    There is a whole documentary about him and another dude. It is about telling the tale of how those two lived with the production process over the years. Jason had the vision and the ability to hype his player base. Unfortunately, he liked to impose this vision to his coworker and could not compromise. Eventually, they unofficially gave his job to someone else (Roman) and isolated Jason into one of the only closed door office within Ubisoft Montreal, nobody was to interact with him. They kept him there because they didn't want to fire him since he was still the face of the game.

    At the launch party, Jason seemed moody. Yannis (CEO of Ubisoft Montreal) came to him and asked "What's up?". Jason replied "I'm sorry if I dont dance to my own funeral". To which Yannis replied "You're a grown man, you can choose how to react to it". Jason was officially fired not long afterward.

    Jason now works at Arenanet on Guildwars I think.

    In other words, you are right. The whole vision of For Honor was replaced with people who wants to change it completely adding more combos and meme to the game. Just look at Roman's attitude during Warrior's Den, he just doesn't give a **** and looks like he's bothered to be on the show, clearly looking down upon the player base. He shows absolutely no energy during the show, he's just annoyed.

    Damn son, at this point, I'm not even mad. I'm just disappointed at what you did with an awesome and unique concept, that would clearly be in a much better state if handled by another, more competent studio like, for instance, CD RED.
    You put your finger on the main issue. For Honor has a unique concept and thus, it doesn't have any competition on the market. That's why DEVs are not pressured to put on the best game possible, players dont have anywhere else to move to.

    Expect Ubisoft to put minimal effort into the game. Their many years plan to keep the game "as a service" revolves around making balance patch and releasing new playable content every 6 months or so. New stuff appears just when players start getting bored with the same old meta. When even that becomes stale, then there's an expansion like marching fire that prompt youtubers to give good review and help renew the hype.

    Dont believe anything in the comment section of these videos and on Ubisoft Forums, they have dummy accounts made to "thumbs up" massively and create false hype. Look at what you get for yourself and decide if you like it or not, cause the internet is full of fake news and fake reactions.

    I mean, just look at this ****, do you REALLY believe the hype is back for No Man Sky ???
    https://www.pcgamer.com/two-years-la...s-sky-is-back/
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    Ok. Period.
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    Now we can get the topic back on track. Thank you.
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    Originally Posted by We.the.North Go to original post
    Did you know he was fired for having a poor attitude ??

    There is a whole documentary about him and another dude. It is about telling the tale of how those two lived with the production process over the years. Jason had the vision and the ability to hype his player base. Unfortunately, he liked to impose this vision to his coworker and could not compromise. Eventually, they unofficially gave his job to someone else (Roman) and isolated Jason into one of the only closed door office within Ubisoft Montreal, nobody was to interact with him. They kept him there because they didn't want to fire him since he was still the face of the game.

    At the launch party, Jason seemed moody. Yannis (CEO of Ubisoft Montreal) came to him and asked "What's up?". Jason replied "I'm sorry if I dont dance to my own funeral". To which Yannis replied "You're a grown man, you can choose how to react to it". Jason was officially fired not long afterward.
    Think you can find us a link to that there documentary mate?

    Jason VandenBerghe was like my hero in the time leading up to For Honor's launch, and I was very shocked by his sudden depature from the team, but with all the articles and stories I've read and heard about, I could never find something outright sinister about his firing/resigning.
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