Is revenge really improving this game ?? | Forums

[We.the.North]

Honest question.

I know some are concerned about the "deathball" problem, but is buffing revenge really the right solution ??

I know I have very poor reflexes and can barely block / parry attacks. I can however dodge very well, but that doesn't give me any revenge point. Out of maybe 20 games, I proc revenge once. As a result, I am very salty about revenge in this game, I think it gives an unfair advantage to people with a good computer (more frames to react and block / parry) and turtle gameplay.

- Revenge procing in 1v1 infuriates me.

- Playing the whole "Feint attacks to bait opponent's revenge activation" breaks my immersion and is just dumb.

- Revenge procing when I guardbreak someone (and before I land my heavy attack) infuriates me.

- Revenge "permanent hyperarmor" negating half of some heroes' kit using bashes infuriates me.

- Revenge "permanent hyperarmor" allowing my opponent to guardbreak me through my attacks infuriates me.

- My opponent procing Revenge twice or more while being ganked infuriates me. (we have to deal 350+ damage)


I think something else should be done about Deathball and revenge should be removed from the game. Revenge cast a bad shadow that more than cover the little good (fun) it creates in this game.

Remove. Revenge. From. The. Game.

[Remnancy1]

Yes let us go ahead and remove any pretense of skill and strategy in 4v4 and ensure that deathballing is the only possibly viable way to play

[DefiledDragon]

Nah. I just revenge killed 3 guys in dominion and it felt awesome (activated revenge twice during the fight). If they were going to change it then I would say that you should only accumulate revenge if you're being attacked by more than one person at a time so it can't be abused in 1 v 1's, but for getting out of a gank it's great.

[We.the.North]

(activated revenge twice during the fight)

So you had 360 hp. Sounds fair to you ??

You even got to proc that ******** twice. I'm so sick of that mechanic.

[DefiledDragon]

So you had 360 hp. Sounds fair to you ??

I said it was awesome, I didn't say it was fair :P

I activated it, managed to take one guy out, carried on defending until I could activate it again then I killed the other two. In all fairness, I had to block attacks from all directions from 3 different people without dying and let's not forget that you take damage whilst blocking, so it's not a guaranteed win.

It doesn't last forever and while your attacks can't be interrupted they can still be blocked or parried, you can still be GB, you can still be ledged. The most powerful thing about it imo is that it auto parries and knocks people over when you activate it as you're being attacked. That's how I managed to kill the first guy, when he was knocked over I got a hit in that killed him.

There were plenty of times in the match where members of their team were outnumbered and still were killed by two or three of us when using revenge so it's not a win button by any means.

[We.the.North]

So overall, you still think the benefit of revenge outweights the downsides ??

To me, the salt from always facing revenge opponent far outweights the very few time revenge is useful to me.

[voiddp]

Yes I here think that new revenge makes everything more interesting.
It is totaly not some kill everyone button and you can die very fast if people ganking you know what they are doing. But also gives you a chance to fight. As example I never can win 2vs1 or 3vs1 like guy above, but totally can prolong my death somewhat. And maybe my teammates come.
But in comparison with previous situation in dominion it is now a lot less frustrating then it was.

And deathballing is a lot more stupid and frustrating for everyone. Revenge helps with that.

Also my next point. What even the thing with revenge in 1vs1 fights in dominion? On my level of skill for these 2 weeks after revenge changes I never saw anything like this. It only activates in 2/3/4 vs1. Both for my and enemy team. And I play a bit more than average and every day.
So I totally think these new topics about 1vs1 revenge is just some sort of divertion thing from deathballers who have their very frustrating type of play somewhat ruined.
And I totally hope that devs will ignore it.Revenge is now where it need to be.

[Darkmight_cz]

Yes I here think that new revenge makes everything more interesting.
It is totaly not some kill everyone button and you can die very fast if people ganking you know what they are doing. But also gives you a chance to fight. As example I never can win 2vs1 or 3vs1 like guy above, but totally can prolong my death somewhat. And maybe my teammates come.
But in comparison with previous situation in dominion it is now a lot less frustrating then it was.

And deathballing is a lot more stupid and frustrating for everyone. Revenge helps with that.

Also my next point. What even the thing with revenge in 1vs1 fights in dominion? On my level of skill for these 2 weeks after revenge changes I never seen anything like this. It only activates in 2/3/4 vs1. Both for my and enemy team. And I play a bit more than average and every day.
So I totally think these new topics about 1vs1 revenge is just some sort of divertion thing from deathballers who have their very frustrating type of play somewhat ruined.
And I totally hope that devs will ignore it.Revenge is now where it need to be.

I agree that revenge is completely fine right now. Vs skillful opponents gives you only some time to live longer and w8 for help and vs branless spaming morons (deathballs) its even better. Ppl don't realize how to fight guy under revenge and that's where all salt come from. I can only say to those guys constantly spaming attacks... guys that's not the way how to beat skillful opponent under revenge -you have to use your brain 😉

[Siegfried-Z]

In my opinion revenge should not even be in the game..
This mechanic is stupid.

Remnancy if for you removing revenge is equal to remove skills you should think again about what is skill. .

Killed opponents thanks to revenge is not the same things.

[HazelrahFirefly]

They can remove Revenge only AFTER they fix deathballing.

At the very least though Revenge should never proc in a 1v1 fight - NEVER. The bar can fill, and the moment a second opponent targets you and swings you can hit it.