Major concern over ghost mode | Forums

[Kane_sg]

Well, since the first Friendly Fire in PvE suggestion first popped-up in this General Discussion, I was always against it because of the potential grieving.

However, though, so far I know we haven't had anything that can instantly kill another player yet. So when someone purposely kill you, quickly enter Lobby menu, report player for grieving or equivalent, then quit the game.

Just like as advertised and said by Ubi-Alien: as cheesy as it sounds, Ghost Mode is for elite Ghosts and so carefully pick your trusted team.

Again, even without Friendly Fire feature, I have run across sh*thead who C4-ed teammate on purpose. Hence why I never agreed with any sort of friend-attack feature in a co-op game. But it is what it is.

We sure have a bigger pit now in this regard, but don't just stand there. F*cking look around and build a bridge instead. And so I implore everyone to back up your (Ghost Mode) save file regularly and quit the session before you are marked as KIA. Considering this is a PvE game, your saved data are saved locally and unless Ubi is a tryhard to make you lose, then normally game wouldn't regard you as dead if you're not dead.

[AkenoKobayashi]

I'm sure Ghost Mode will be cool, but I'm not playing past Normal. Not even touching Tier mode with it. Not worth losing all my progress.

[R09U3A55A55IN90]

*****

[P0B2009]

They may have made a compromise, like only saving the progression, once you kill Buchon. if you die before you kill a proovinces' Buchon everything in that province resets. Tha way deaths are still punishing, without being so hard that it will drive people away from the Mode.

That’s a good idea. I agree that Permadeath has potential if there are some compromises. This is a huge game after all.

Ideas so far are:

Game only saves after you kill a buchon

Only character progression is lost, not mission progression

Permadeath is a NG+ option so you don’t have to worry about XP or going round collecting weapons and attachments again, just main missions.

[sgtsmithki]

That's your personal preference, it makes it more realistic to where you'll have to coordinate with your team, and make sure you are a little careful

[Lunatic LK47]

That's your personal preference, it makes it more realistic to where you'll have to coordinate with your team, and make sure you are a little careful

Too bad the single-player only crowd is screwed over when the Team A.I. Does not work properly.

[CarolinaFrog]

Exactly. If the Dev team had approached the community, and said that they were looking at adding a new hardcore mode, I can see the community agreeing with every aspect of Ghost Mode, other than the permadeath. They may have made a compromise, like only saving the progression, once you kill Buchon. if you die before you kill a proovinces' Buchon everything in that province resets. Tha way deaths are still punishing, without being so hard that it will drive people away from the Mode.

you do realize that ubi was hammered with requests for this mode at launch right? they have a team of folks they consult that they trust that play the game religiously and give fantastic feedback... try "waiting and seeing" before *****ing!

[Megalodon26]

Yes, I know players have been asking for options to make the game harder, since launch. Things like removing the HUD, having no secondary weapon, realistic ammo tracking, and weapon swapping. But the key word was options, so they could be used to main the main harder and more realistic. First they allowed us to remove the HUD. then they gave us tier One mode. I mean would you imagine if you dropped all the way to tier 50, every time you died? But I do not recall anyone ever begging for a completely separate mode, where you lose everything, when you die? Unless the devs have a complete and utter misunderstanding of what a New Game+ means.

[AI BLUEFOX]

Let's see what permadeath means. I think it will most likely be a complete wipe, but it could be that you lose your character and skills, although with the added complication of rebel support missions I'm not sure how that would work.

[CarolinaFrog]

iirc from the teaser.. its only if you legitimately die... theres still consideration for rezzing